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I use a UV filter as lens protection on all my lens's... Here's my thoughts on it, lets say you spend 400 dollars for a starter lens, and you scratch the glass accidently.. you just made a 400 lens worthless.. if your buying a starter dslr kit your probably not selling photos for very much money, so the photo being of slightly less quality, which you would never be able to tell, is not worth risking your glass...
canon factory repair/canon professional services (cps), nikon service and repair,tamron and sigma all do lens repairs. it doesn't cost that much. the highest i paid for a cps repair was $260 and this was on a 300 f/2.8 is (the whole IS group had to be replaced).
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It depends on the environment you're taking pictures in. I'm pretty new to photography, and I have personally never used a filter, but I used to play paintball, and some of my friends still do. If I ever decided to get a nice telelphoto and go shoot paintball, you can bet I'd use a protective filter.

There's a (very old) "Paintball photography hazards" thread over on POTN. Here is one image from that thread:

Luckily, that is only a broken filter, not a broken lens.
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post #23 of 36
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canon factory repair/canon professional services (cps), nikon service and repair,tamron and sigma all do lens repairs. it doesn't cost that much. the highest i paid for a cps repair was $260 and this was on a 300 f/2.8 is (the whole IS group had to be replaced).
So, essentially, it's up to the end user whether they'd like to take an insignificant hit in IQ or the possibility of a costly ($260 is still a good chunk of money for most people) repair. I think that's about the best way to put it, don't you?
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So, essentially, it's up to the end user whether they'd like to take an insignificant hit in IQ or the possibility of a costly ($260 is still a good chunk of money for most people) repair. I think that's about the best way to put it, don't you?
no because if the hit is strong enough to break the front element its probably strong enough to break the UV filter + significantly scratch the front element.
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So, essentially, it's up to the end user whether they'd like to take an insignificant hit in IQ or the possibility of a costly ($260 is still a good chunk of money for most people) repair. I think that's about the best way to put it, don't you?
i wouldn't word it to something like, "use a filter or spend money in repairs!" to scare off people for not using a filter. i'm just saying that even if your lens takes a significant damage, it can be repaired and your investment will not be entirely lost. i dropped the 300 f/2.8 as i literally got tackled by a 240lb high-school football player. even a filter won't protect something like that.

i'm just saying $260 was the most i've ever spent on a repair. from my books, i've spent about $106 total in maintaining my equipment (lens wipes, repairs, etc) in 2010. while i do put my lenses in extreme conditions, it doesn't mean i'm into abusing them. if i'm going to pay for a lens with the absolute highest build quality, weather seals, and durability you can assure that i wont mind putting it through rain, snow, and gatorade dumps at the 50yd line.

if you know you're going into a harsh environment (like paintballing) you should be using a protective filter and the argument ends there. then there are people who absolutely baby their photo equipment more than their own actual babies out there. i'm not one of them.

this discussion is more about using a protective filter on a day-to-day basis. in terms of iq loss, insignificant is an overstatement. to the nay-sayers i challenge them to measure the iq loss through a b+w mrc filter.

it really boils down to preference. love it, hate it, amd, intel, nvidia, ati, canon, nikon, sigma, tamron - there is no definitive answer.
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i wouldn't word it to something like, "use a filter or spend money in repairs!" to scare off people for not using a filter. i'm just saying that even if your lens takes a significant damage, it can be repaired and your investment will not be entirely lost. i dropped the 300 f/2.8 as i literally got tackled by a 240lb high-school football player. even a filter won't protect something like that.

i'm just saying $260 was the most i've ever spent on a repair. from my books, i've spent about $106 total in maintaining my equipment (lens wipes, repairs, etc) in 2010. while i do put my lenses in extreme conditions, it doesn't mean i'm into abusing them. if i'm going to pay for a lens with the absolute highest build quality, weather seals, and durability you can assure that i wont mind putting it through rain, snow, and gatorade dumps at the 50yd line.

if you know you're going into a harsh environment (like paintballing) you should be using a protective filter and the argument ends there. then there are people who absolutely baby their photo equipment more than their own actual babies out there. i'm not one of them.

this discussion is more about using a protective filter on a day-to-day basis. in terms of iq loss, insignificant is an overstatement. to the nay-sayers i challenge them to measure the iq loss through a b+w mrc filter.

it really boils down to preference. love it, hate it, amd, intel, nvidia, ati, canon, nikon, sigma, tamron - there is no definitive answer.
I think you might have took my comment a bit out of context. I didn't say damage will happen sans protective filter, only that the possibility exists. I don't see anything wrong with that statement, because in a number of conditions, 10 bucks is gonna be a whole lot easier to stomach than >100 bucks, especially for those of us who aren't making it rain dollars all over our camera gear.
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I think you might have took my comment a bit out of context. I didn't say damage will happen sans protective filter, only that the possibility exists. I don't see anything wrong with that statement, because in a number of conditions, 10 bucks is gonna be a whole lot easier to stomach than >100 bucks, especially for those of us who aren't making it rain dollars all over our camera gear.
use only the highest quality filters if you're going for them. 77mm b+w mrc ones start at $88 or so.
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use only the highest quality filters if you're going for them. 77mm b+w mrc ones start at $88 or so.
That is, unfortunately, not an attractive option for someone shooting on a budget. I'm not a pro, I don't sell prints -- it's just a hobby. If I at any time feel that a cheap filter is hindering IQ enough to bother me, I'll pop it off briefly.
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no one ever said dslrs were cheap =\\
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