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Alright OCN, I have a friend that is in need of a budget gaming rig. His ideal budget is $650 but up to $800 is ok if necessary ($800 is strict though, above that he simply does not have the cash for). This is gonna be hard cause this must include a monitor as well.

Minimum requirements:
Quad core, Nvidia gpu(he likes to fold), >21" monitor, 4gb ram, 7200rpm HDD, a reputable PSU that will be able to support 2 of whatever gpu he gets in the future. All I can think of for now.

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Edited by austinb324 - 1/25/11 at 10:44pm
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post #2 of 12
If it's a budget gaming rig, I see no reason why he can't drop down to the AMD 925 Deneb, and a GTS 450. If you have a used computer store near you (like what I have near where I live), you might be able to pick up an adequate case for free. That's what I did.

BTW,,, What IS that in your avatar????

Another thought... If he can live w/ "old" technology (AM2 mobo, DDR2 RAM), I would look at Craigslist. That's where I found what has turned out to be my best computer. It has been running flawlessly for almost a year. I have upgraded things in it (CPU, GPU, PSU, monitor) but it has the same mobo, and the parts I replaced are now running happily in other builds I have in the house.
Edited by croSSeduP - 1/25/11 at 10:59pm
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post #3 of 12
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Its Bacon! How does the 450 run compared to the 460? Also, I think he is gonna want ddr3. I mean 4gigs and a mobo are less than 150.
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post #4 of 12
800 isn't that small of a budget, it just depends what performance he expects, but 650 is going to be a tough call for one reason really: he needs Intel CPU and a pretty expensive board because he needs SLI.
Off topic I've always argued a case against SLI because after a year or so when supposedly one would want to upgrade and get a second card in SLI the following happens:
a) using SLI isn't seamless by any means, some games take it better than others, but there can be driver/stuttering/overheating issues that can be quite unpleasant
b) after a year there may not even be on sale the card you want to SLI
c) there are better options for similar prices; selling the old card and buying a new one bring new technology and lower power requirements

On topic: if SLI is a priority and if the man wants to OC he needs at least a Core i5 2500k which is about 220$, but we'd be off budget so a non-OCable Core i3 2120 must be taken for 130$; 150$ for a P67 mobo w/ 2x PCIe slots and 60$ for 4GB DDR3, a 500W PSU from Corsair should take any SLI setup and cost some 60$, 60$ for a Spinpoint F3 1TB, 60$ for an NZXT case and we're at 520$. This leaves ~280$ for the graphics card and monitor so it would be fine for a GTS 450 & a 22" LCD

If SLI wasn't mandatory, he could get a Phenom II 955 & AMD870 board for some 230$ that would perform very close, a 400W 40$ Corsair CX400 PSU and thus save 70$ to invest in a GTX 460 1GB which is some 50% faster than a GTS 450. This would be my choice for a gaming system for one more reason - using a hack he could enable SLI on any motherboard.
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post #5 of 12
Don't forget TigerDirect has barebones kits. And a $139 23" monitor.

NewEgg and TD are my goto sites...

TD will also have some amazing deals on just about any one component of a system... case, psu, ram, etc etc.
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post #6 of 12
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Originally Posted by dragosmp View Post
800 isn't that small of a budget, it just depends what performance he expects, but 650 is going to be a tough call for one reason really: he needs Intel CPU and a pretty expensive board because he needs SLI.
Off topic I've always argued a case against SLI because after a year or so when supposedly one would want to upgrade and get a second card in SLI the following happens:
a) using SLI isn't seamless by any means, some games take it better than others, but there can be driver/stuttering/overheating issues that can be quite unpleasant
b) after a year there may not even be on sale the card you want to SLI
c) there are better options for similar prices; selling the old card and buying a new one bring new technology and lower power requirements

On topic: if SLI is a priority and if the man wants to OC he needs at least a Core i5 2500k which is about 220$, but we'd be off budget so a non-OCable Core i3 2120 must be taken for 130$; 150$ for a P67 mobo w/ 2x PCIe slots and 60$ for 4GB DDR3, a 500W PSU from Corsair should take any SLI setup and cost some 60$, 60$ for a Spinpoint F3 1TB, 60$ for an NZXT case and we're at 520$. This leaves ~280$ for the graphics card and monitor so it would be fine for a GTS 450 & a 22" LCD

If SLI wasn't mandatory, he could get a Phenom II 955 & AMD870 board for some 230$ that would perform very close, a 400W 40$ Corsair CX400 PSU and thus save 70$ to invest in a GTX 460 1GB which is some 50% faster than a GTS 450. This would be my choice for a gaming system for one more reason - using a hack he could enable SLI on any motherboard.
Well lets just go with the SLI not necessary idea. What did you think of the cart I put together in the OP?
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post #7 of 12
As was stated, a 460 is about 50% better than a 450. I like it because I used that single card to replace two HD3870's that were in Xfire. That one 450 performs better than the two 3870's and it is DirectX 11 capable. It's a decent card and can run any game I've thrown at it, though - obviously - NOT at the highest settings. It's also only $100 from the Egg w/ a mail in rebate!

I think your cart looks great; you are pushing that $800 limit, though; that's why I suggested a step back on the GPU/CPU.
Edited by croSSeduP - 1/26/11 at 10:47am
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post #8 of 12
I replied with my post because my gut instinct is that there is "something left on the table" ... meaning that my cheap-azz filter thinks there's better deal to be had with not much more sniffing around.
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post #9 of 12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by unexpectedly View Post
I replied with my post because my gut instinct is that there is "something left on the table" ... meaning that my cheap-azz filter thinks there's better deal to be had with not much more sniffing around.
Cool well I will definitely do some more hunting, its gonna be a week or 2 before he gets it.
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post #10 of 12
Hmmm... Gtx460 on td for 109 after mir... Get an am3 socket and at least 2 pcie slots if not 4. Then this can be his version of my f3 rig whenever he gets his next computer. Im pissed that i have so many single pcie motherboards.

I've got 4 offline computers and 1 slot each. Lame.... I'm trying to bring up the x4 tomorrow.... We'll see if f4 is born to fold.
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