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Ok, I am getting 3810 MHz from the CPU after a few days of fiddling;

fsb = 237MHz
CPU mult = 16.0
CPU = 1.35v
CPU/NB = 1.25v
DRAM = 1.5v

The CPU is static at 51DegC on Prime95, but with BOINC pushing all CPU cores maxed out and my 3 x GPUs (CUDA) each running >90 DegC! The CPU sits around 49DegC but my MB temperature rises too 41DegC. Using CPUID hardware monitor & Everest.

Prime95 is the best CPU stress test but motherboard gets a workout with BOINC. BOINC does not push the CPU as much as Prime95 but reaches other parts Prime95 cannot reach tongue.gif

I've tried to get beyond my current OC but overnight testing always ended in failure.

I think I need to do something with my RAM but not sure if or what. Because of the Noctua CPU cooler I cannot put any heatsink on the heat spreaders, I suspect the RAM still.

Fan 2 is switched off cuz I think it will steal air from entering the CPU cooler. But I am thinking it rigging up a funnel/tunnel for this fan just to draw air through the RAM from the bottom of the case.

Fan 4 & 5 should feed the 3 hungry GPUs.

To the right of the CPU cooler is empty space, the front of the case has a grill for air flow.

There is also a small fan behind the mb to extract hot air from behind the mb.

I know Noctua do not shift as much air & have lower static pressure than other fans, but they run silent, blar! blar! blar!

What can be done?
post #2 of 16
Hi.

You have a BE CPU, so, why use the FSB that is a little complicated because is liken with the NB, HT and DRAM frequency? Use the CPU multiplier and Vcore to go higher, after that you can rise the NB frequency too and get very good performance.

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I used the CPU multiplier before with the current fsb it will not go beyond x16.0. But with a lower fsb I can use x18.5, but the CPU MHz hits its ceiling around 3.7GHz.

The current set-up is the fastest MHz I've managed so far with all my fiddling.
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Disable Cool'n'Quite, C1E and Turbo core. You have a solid rig, so, overclock with the 200MHz FSB and rising the multiplier should not be a problem.
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Originally Posted by MoleStrangler;12149030 
I used the CPU multiplier before with the current fsb it will not go beyond x16.0. But with a lower fsb I can use x18.5, but the CPU MHz hits its ceiling around 3.7GHz.

The current set-up is the fastest MHz I've managed so far with all my fiddling.

You know your volts are safe up to 1.5v, also Thubans like CPU/NB over Cpu v
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To push above 3.8 you will need to raise vcore, what error are you getting in prime? Worker stopped? System freeze? Blue screen?

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post #7 of 16
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Cool'n'Quite & C1E are disabled, not sure about the Turbo core.

I do not see the error, I leave running over night and the machine is dark! Black screen.

So I can fix my fsb @ 200MHz and raise the CPU too 1.5v , and pump up the multiplier.
post #8 of 16
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Originally Posted by MoleStrangler;12148536 
Ok, I am getting 3810 MHz from the CPU after a few days of fiddling;

fsb = 237MHz
CPU mult = 16.0
CPU = 1.35v
CPU/NB = 1.25v
DRAM = 1.5v

The CPU is static at 51DegC on Prime95, but with BOINC pushing all CPU cores maxed out and my 3 x GPUs (CUDA) each running >90 DegC! The CPU sits around 49DegC but my MB temperature rises too 41DegC. Using CPUID hardware monitor & Everest.

Prime95 is the best CPU stress test but motherboard gets a workout with BOINC. BOINC does not push the CPU as much as Prime95 but reaches other parts Prime95 cannot reach tongue.gif

I've tried to get beyond my current OC but overnight testing always ended in failure.

I think I need to do something with my RAM but not sure if or what. Because of the Noctua CPU cooler I cannot put any heatsink on the heat spreaders, I suspect the RAM still.

Fan 2 is switched off cuz I think it will steal air from entering the CPU cooler. But I am thinking it rigging up a funnel/tunnel for this fan just to draw air through the RAM from the bottom of the case.

Fan 4 & 5 should feed the 3 hungry GPUs.

To the right of the CPU cooler is empty space, the front of the case has a grill for air flow.

There is also a small fan behind the mb to extract hot air from behind the mb.

I know Noctua do not shift as much air & have lower static pressure than other fans, but they run silent, blar! blar! blar!

What can be done?

I'll assume fan #1 is an exhaust (same as #2). With #2 turned off I would block that case opening and than add another 120mm high above #5 in the 5.25" bay and mount it as close as possible to the back side of the front benzel to draw cool air in to assist the Noctua. This is how my case runs.

As for your OC,
first raise the ref clock to 250MHz. Make several small increases of 3-5MHz while maintaining current CPU, Dram,HT and NB Freq's. When fails prime add a little (2-4 bumps) CPU/NB Voltage for "stopped worker/s" and Vcore (2 bumps) if it BOSD. Should pass a few hours of prime. May need 1.3v CPU/NB, max is 1.45-1.5v.

Once stabilized than work CPU Multiplier back up to 16 (4000MHz) in .5 increments. Think, as you have previously raised the ref clock you'll have to lower cpu multilpier to maintain 3.8 or less to get to the 250MHz ref clock.
As prime fails, same as above, stopped worker = more CPU/NB Voltage (or maybe even Dram Voltage) and BSOD = more Vcore. My 1090T needs 1.4v Vcore and CPU/NB of 1.35v at this level, yours may be different. This should also pass a few hours of prime.

Raising the NB Freq to 2800-3000MHz will not only add stability (at 4.0) but will also give a large boost in performance, just change the CPU/NB Freq and you'll most like need to increase the CPU/NB Voltage to 1.35-1.4v and maybe 2 bumps of Vcore to make stable. Keep the HT Link Speed at, or as close as possible to 2000MHz (+/- 100MHz).

When you've reached these settings be sure you can pass 12-24 hrs of prime. Feel free to PM me if I can help any more.
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post #9 of 16
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Thanks Sandman, clear and simple OC instructions to follow; it took no time at all. Your a star!!!!

I didn't have to reduce x16.0 to get the FSB up to 250MHz, Just bumped the FSB a few times and did not have to touch the CPU multiplier.

I am now at +/- 4011MHz it peaks at 40119MHz at times with;

CPU = x16.0
FSB = 250MHz
CPU = 1.4v
CPU/NB = 1.4v
NB Freq = 3000MHz
HT Link Speed = 2000MHz

The following is still unchanged;

NB = 1.1v
SB = 1.113v
HT = 1.2v

CPU temperature (Prime95) sits at 57DegC and the motherboard is 36DegC. I think I need the extra fans you suggested, not a problem I have two Coolermaster fans from the case lying around. But want to keep the noise to a minimum, so lets see how that goes later.

I'm going to let it ride on these for a while (a few days) before trying more.

What would be be the next step?
post #10 of 16
Good job! Glad it helped a bit. Please don't just use the voltage numbers I sent you. Those are for reference only, and your setup might get away with less voltage than mine.
So next I'd try lowering the Vcore (just one bump at a time and re-test) and than after that try the same thing with the CPU/NB Voltage to see if it's stable with less voltage therefore running cooler. If you did gradually work up to those numbers than great your race ready. Only thing left to do is OC the ram if you wanted. Just make sure what you have can pass a min 12 hrs of prime95 with no errors before working the ram (24 hrs if your brave lol).

If you'd like help with the ram let me know exactly what you have, (I've been helping to many others to keep it all straight) and the settings currently in your bios and we'll go from there.

As for the other three voltages you asked about leave them as is for now and try the passing the final stability test of 12 hrs if you haven't already.

Other than OC'ing the ram I'd say your at your thermo limit with your current cooler and should work on that before raising the OC any further. Actually I'm quit surprised the Noctua is being out performed by my Mugen lol. Have you tried to re-seat it at all? What TIM are you using? Normally the Noctua should be better than a Mugen and at these settings my Mugen max's out at 54c with ambient of 20.2c (70F). In fact the 54c is only a spike and it more commonly averages load temp of 49-52c. Something to look into.
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