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He claims a $500 PC can't match a PS3's capabilities, yet when we throw one at him that can, he goes on with some other backup plan like "lol no Blu-Ray."
Yeah, it's pretty sad really. Honestly, he gave a challenge, someone accepted it and defeated it. Be a man and take your loss.
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I have some idea that can help to save PC gaming though, but it's for another thread.
Save it from what exactly? it's more popular and mainstream now than it's ever been.
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Honestly, there are many things to think about here (price related and not). Almost everyone on here is what I would label an "enthusiast". We know what the latest and greatest tech is and we know how to find good deals on hardware/software... It's part of the whole tech-geek way of life...

Let's think about Average Joe Consumer here... (keep in mind, I play games. I like all platforms (except wii), they all offer great games that I would not want to miss out on; and this in no way reflects on my opinion, I'm just displaying some things to consider)

-Average Joe Consumer doesn't know the first thing about building a gaming pc... there are many parts to be purchased and if you don't know the difference between chipsets, videocards, cpu's, ram, etc, it can be fairly difficult to get into... and pricey. If Joe Consumer decides to buy a PRE-MADE gaming PC, they are looking at usually a quite hefty price-tag. Must remember, when buying pre-made systems, the only ones that are advertised as being for gaming, is usually the highest end consumer models, much like an Alienware or something along those lines... We're looking at many thousands of dollars, quite intimidating!

-Average Joe Consumer walks into a major retailer or game store... Currently, most Multi-Platform games are running within $10 of eachother from Console/PC, if even that much. Lots of new multi-plat games are being sold at the same price across platforms. PC used to be lucky and have most games at around the $39 pricetag, but lately we see lots of popular titles around $59.

-Average Joe Consumer knows that all his friends already have a 360 or PS3... They want to game online together... If Joe buys a gaming PC, he's probably left gaming on his own, not with his buddies. Granted, he'll have a more powerful system that's capable of much more than gaming, but he can't enjoy it with his friends...

-Consoles keep it easy... You want to play games, hook it up to your tv, stick a game in, pick up a controller and go for it! ---PC's... Not so much... Install, download latest patches/drivers, hope you don't have any issues, find out your video card is not good enough, spend 4 hours online checking web-forums on why your textures are not displaying properly, rinse, & repeat...

-PC online gaming is usually free. A big plus to PC gamers is that you don't need to pay for Xbox Live... There are few games that have a subscription fee, but generally speaking, its free... but again, lots of the 'masses' are on gaming consoles and want to play online with their friends. Unless your group of friends is a bunch of PC gamers, this could make paying $40-$50 bucks a year for a Live membership seem worth it!

-Most stores these days are selling console games used, assuring games popularity and an opportunity to save money... Rarely do you find places selling PC games used anymore due to many reasons, most notably DRM. A lot of people who don't know too much about PC gaming will walk into a store and not see the opportunity to buy games used and be either turned away at the fact they can't "save money" or that the platform of PC gaming isn't all that popular.

There is probably more to this... but that's all I can think of at the moment. Easily, I could expand it onto all the different peripherals that PC gaming could use, and cost money, such as gaming mouse, keyboard, etc... but that's not necessary. No point in preaching to the choir.
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Save it from what exactly? it's more popular and mainstream now than it's ever been.
Agreed. IMO BC2 pushed PC gamers to upgrade their hardware which may influence a nice boost to PC gaming. BC2 for PC outsold both console versions. That shows a lot especially since many people still can't play BC2 on their hardware. I think a few more great release titles that are more hardware demanding will urge the remaining people to step up their hardware.
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yes this is true but in a gaming sense consoles are cheaper
Another kid fooled by the seemingly clever console marketing.

Tell me, how much is a single game brand new on PS3? And then how much is a brand new game on PC? That's right, less than half the price. In the long run, PC is cheaper, allows multitasking and does a better job of gaming than your PS3 (which is DEDICATED to games). You were fooled by the cheap (or not so cheap) console price alone. They make a loss selling the actual console that cheap and then regain profit by overpricing games and accessories.

Oh and that 3D bull about PS3 being 3d-ready blah blah, there are like 5 games that give you the option to and are usually accompanied by really bad framerate. The same games on PS3 that are capable of 3D are on PC too by default; and you can play them at 1080p60. Should you want to play ALL games in 3D though, you'd need a slightly more expensive PC.

I love making fanboys crash and burn. :3
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Initially, yes. But $10 of the price on the game goes to MS/Sony/Nintendo, that's why like Cod4 was $60 on Xbox and $50 on PC at release.
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Initially, yes. But $10 of the price on the game goes to MS/Sony/Nintendo, that's why like Cod4 was $60 on Xbox and $50 on PC at release.
Activision games are overpriced.

Crysis 2 for example is $40 on PC and $65 on PS3. And Crysis 2 is priced slightly more than the average PC game.
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The one major advantage I see over consoles having over PC's is their portability. In fact that is the only reason I still have my 360. It's easier to pack into my milk create with 4 controllers, a couple of games, and the system/cables. When you go to start moving your PC you have at least 4 things to look after, Mouse, keyboard, monitor, and the system it's self. Now if you want sound and you don't have monitor with speakers you gotta bring some headphones or speakers. Granted they could be ear buds or the giant surround sound super head phones. You also have cables. One video cable, 2 power cables, possibly your keyboard and mouse if they aren't wireless. An internet line if it's not wireless.

Now if you start throwing heavy heatsinks and water cooling into the mix you have to have to be extra careful not you drop or bump the computer. I don't know if anyone else does this but I toss my xbox regularly onto my bed and such as I start packing or unpacking it.

I see consoles as a convenience. Less stuff to haul around.
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By now, I think I realize earwig is mostly trolling. I'll come back to him when he makes an adequate point.

See, TamaDrum actually made a nice summary of the pros and cons of each. I kind of wish Alienware would stop proliferating the idea that all gaming computers are $1000+. But I should note, that idea about being unable to play with friends on 360 - that's true anytime you're moving between systems of varying popularity. Besides which, the 360 still allows for splitscreen in a number of games; assuming you're not antisocial, and actually try to physically meet up often.

I certainly agree on the thing about console simplicity though. That's the one time I've enjoyed having my DS while my gaming computer is on the fritz.
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Activision games are overpriced.

Crysis 2 for example is $40 on PC and $65 on PS3. And Crysis 2 is priced slightly more than the average PC game.
Thats cause every power hungry computer gamer want to see if there rig "Can Run Crysis 2" That and with Crysis selling so well it has created a desire for more. I suspect the same thing will happen with Diablo 3.
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