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The Q9650 is about even with x4 Phenom II's, the x6 easily beats the Q9650 in multi-threaded apps.

That said the Q9650 is now 2 gens old for Intel and AMD is awaiting its new chips soon.


When you start running SLI you start to notice how far behind AMD chips really are.
    
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Originally Posted by BallaTheFeared;12153953 
The Q9650 is about even with x4 Phenom II's, the x6 easily beats the Q9650 in multi-threaded apps.

That said the Q9650 is now 2 gens old for Intel and AMD is awaiting its new chips soon.


When you start running SLI you start to notice how far behind AMD chips really are.

that's why i said single threaded apps.
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You need to overclock that CPU some more. But I'm betting the problem is more along the lines of you having a 9800GX2. Those dual GPU cards are known to be problematic.

Your rig is honestly coming along nicely since you first joined up, hell even 6 months ago wink.gif. Don't sweat it, that triple core WAS DEFINITELY an upgrade over your old 9750. Your biggest problem right now is the board.

You should have bought DDR3 instead of DDR2, since you need a new board anyway. If you can return the DDR2, do it....get some DDR3 instead. And save for a better board.
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Originally Posted by pioneerisloud;12159785 
You need to overclock that CPU some more. But I'm betting the problem is more along the lines of you having a 9800GX2. Those dual GPU cards are known to be problematic.

Your rig is honestly coming along nicely since you first joined up, hell even 6 months ago wink.gif. Don't sweat it, that triple core WAS DEFINITELY an upgrade over your old 9750. Your biggest problem right now is the board.

You should have bought DDR3 instead of DDR2, since you need a new board anyway. If you can return the DDR2, do it....get some DDR3 instead. And save for a better board.

i bought the ram off a friend for 15 bucks lol so it was dirt cheap. and im hoping my tax returns are good so i can get a new processor and motherboard
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Originally Posted by philhalo66;12160077 
i bought the ram off a friend for 15 bucks lol so it was dirt cheap. and im hoping my tax returns are good so i can get a new processor and motherboard

The problem being though, you're going to have a VERY hard time finding a GOOD DDR2 motherboard anymore. This is why I haven't upgraded my motherboard yet, because I need CPU-NB voltage adjustments to go any higher. But I can't find a board that'll do it, that's any good.

Your current 720BE is a decent enough chip. Especially if it unlocks. You won't really have any need to upgrade that, unless you go for a 1055T.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by philhalo66;12153805 
lol you dont know much about amd do you? the Q9650 is faster than any amd processor on the market. and a 4GHz core 2 duo is faster than an amd 6 core CPU in single threaded apps.

I think he meant Core 2 Duo not the Core 2 Quad in his sig.
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i bought the ram off a friend for 15 bucks lol so it was dirt cheap. and im hoping my tax returns are good so i can get a new processor and motherboard

Your processor is fine, I even ran Crysis at acceptable framerates when I had 9800 GTX+ in SLI and an E2200 (that one is for sure a bottleneck). It may be your GX2 running out of VRAM or even microstutter. Have you got any more GPUs?
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Originally Posted by pioneerisloud;12160108 
The problem being though, you're going to have a VERY hard time finding a GOOD DDR2 motherboard anymore. This is why I haven't upgraded my motherboard yet, because I need CPU-NB voltage adjustments to go any higher. But I can't find a board that'll do it, that's any good.

Your current 720BE is a decent enough chip. Especially if it unlocks. You won't really have any need to upgrade that, unless you go for a 1055T.

u hear ya i see a few decent ones on Newegg but none have any mosfet cooling like my current one has. ebay looks like my only other option. its a 710 not 720
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I think he meant Core 2 Duo not the Core 2 Quad in his sig.



Your processor is fine, I even ran Crysis at acceptable framerates when I had 9800 GTX+ in SLI and an E2200 (that one is for sure a bottleneck). It may be your GX2 running out of VRAM or even microstutter. Have you got any more GPUs?

i got an 8800GT it runs a little less than half the framerate get in SLI Mode on my GX2. video memory stays at 409MB so its still got atleast 80MB more. i asked XFX what they think maybe its a bug or something.
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Originally Posted by philhalo66;12160152 
u hear ya i see a few decent ones on Newegg but none have any mosfet cooling like my current one has. ebay looks like my only other option. its a 710 not 720



i got an 8800GT it runs a little less than half the framerate get in SLI Mode on my GX2. video memory stays at 409MB so its still got atleast 80MB more. i asked XFX what they think maybe its a bug or something.

So it's not really a bottleneck since you do see performance increases. What are your clocks on the Phenom ATM?
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So it's not really a bottleneck since you do see performance increases. What are your clocks on the Phenom ATM?

the highest i can get on my current mobo 3.055GHz with HT clock at 2350MHz(if that matters)
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the highest i can get on my current mobo 3.055GHz with HT clock at 2350MHz(if that matters)

Lower your HT Link multiplier down. Your HT should be between 1800-2100 after the overclock for stability. If your NB clock is up there kind of high too, then lower it as well, or up your CPU-NB voltage (if you have it).
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Intel Core i5 3330 Asus H61 MSI GTX 750Ti Low Profile 2x4GB Hynix DDR3-1333 
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60GB Kingston SSD 1TB Seagate Samsung DVDRW CoolerMaster Gemin II 
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Windows 8.1 + Steam Big Picture / Plex HT 50" Insignia LED 1080p Logitech Rosewill Green 530w 
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Silverstone HTPC Logitech Pioneer 2.0 tower speakers + 135w RMS Rosewill MCE Remote 
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Crucial MX100 256GB WD Green 2TB DVDRW Corsair H50 Push / Pull 
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NZXT 120mm fans strapped to stock 7970 cooler Windows 10 Pro Dell 3007WFP Dell 2007FP 
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Dell 2007FP Cheap Toshiba (R.I.P. Ducky) PC Power & Cooling Silencer MKIII 950w Cheap Garbage (free) 
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Logitech G602 Yardsale Special 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 3330 Asus H61 MSI GTX 750Ti Low Profile 2x4GB Hynix DDR3-1333 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
60GB Kingston SSD 1TB Seagate Samsung DVDRW CoolerMaster Gemin II 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 8.1 + Steam Big Picture / Plex HT 50" Insignia LED 1080p Logitech Rosewill Green 530w 
CaseMouseAudioOther
Silverstone HTPC Logitech Pioneer 2.0 tower speakers + 135w RMS Rosewill MCE Remote 
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