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is the GE cooper cooler larger in general or is the new twin frorz smaller ?

i never installed the 465 (its going back to amazon) so no real comparison, soree thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif

excuse the chit pics

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Edited by dealio - 1/26/11 at 1:34pm
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The PCB is smaller on the 560, thus the cooler is smaller, also 560's tend to run cooler, so they don't need as much cooling. The 465 is a heck of a chip to try and cool, runs as hot as a 470 with the power of a 460 wink.gif
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i see.. its the PCB not the cooler, so 560 regular and upcoming GE should be the same size.
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The TDP of the GTX560 is less than that of the GTX465, too. This, coupled with the smaller PCB means a less beefy heatsink is required. Also note that the GTX560 TFII cooler only has 4 heatpipes.
    
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Originally Posted by appleg33k85;12153193 
The PCB is smaller on the 560, thus the cooler is smaller, also 560's tend to run cooler, so they don't need as much cooling. The 465 is a heck of a chip to try and cool, runs as hot as a 470 with the power of a 460 wink.gif

I have one and it runs as hot as a 470 because it *is* a 470 rolleyes.gif

The copper cooler is great though, quieter than any stock fan.
 
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I'm actually struggling on which to buy, the gtx 465(unlock to 470) or the gtx 560. Since the 560 is out, the price of the 400 series drops down and has more rebate offers. Now the 465 (the MSI gold edition one) is around 199 after rebate, and the 560 is around 250-260 with no rebate offers yet. Which should I get with the 50 bucks difference if I aim for a bang on the buck (performance/dollar wise)?

Please move if I was supposed to make my own thread but I just thought this thread compares the two.
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Given the price diff, I dunno which I'd choose, but I'll tell ya this ... whenever someone w/SLI 560's gets up and running, it's gonna be straight-up max OC 470 vs 560 bench-off time thumb.gif

I think I can still match up w/'em, maybe still even win a couple benches that have a lot of tessellation. But my stuff will be a lot louder and hotter doing so, which would figure in my calcs if I was starting from scratch.

If one was at a real high res, too ... obviously the extra 256MB of ram could come into play, that might lead me to choose 470's over 560's.
    
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Originally Posted by brettjv;12171687 
Given the price diff, I dunno which I'd choose, but I'll tell ya this ... whenever someone w/SLI 560's gets up and running, it's gonna be straight-up max OC 470 vs 560 bench-off time thumb.gif

I think I can still match up w/'em, maybe still even win a couple benches that have a lot of tessellation. But my stuff will be a lot louder and hotter doing so, which would figure in my calcs if I was starting from scratch.

If one was at a real high res, too ... obviously the extra 256MB of ram could come into play, that might lead me to choose 470's over 560's.

If given the gold edition is unlockable to 470, given the benchmark chart from this review:
http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-n560gtx-ti-twin-frozer-ii-review/18
the 560 is about 16% (51-44/44) better in performance but 20% (250-200/200) more expensive. Hence in a performance/dollar ratio it's better to get the 465.

But problem is:
1. Are all gold edition guaranteed to be unlockable? My frd told me to double check b/c manufacturers tend to revise their products and hence have different versions out in the market. If the one I'm getting is a newer revision, then better get the 560.
2. The GTX 465/470/480 all seem to have temperature and noise problems. But Nvidia seems to have done a way better job lowering them in the newer 560. This seem to matter a lot especially for temperature because higher temperatures tend to make the card less durable right?
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