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Planning to get a GTX 460 OR 470 + new PSU and RAM.

But I am not sure if I can get 100% performance with the Q8200.

I am not able to overclock since I have a pre-built computer(BIOS is locked, unable to get through and overclock the CPU), and the warranty is about to expire as well.

Any advice would be great.

Current specs:

Intel Core 2 Quad 2.33 GHz
4GB RAM
640GB HDD
9600GT Green Edition
400W PSU

Thanks.
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A stock Q8200 may and likely will hold you back in CPU-intensive games like Bad Company 2. You'll definitely still see a big boost in performance going from a 9600GT to a GTX460/470 though. It's still a very solid upgrade since you can just get a new mobo/CPU/RAM later down the line.

Also, don't bother getting a new mobo for overclocking your chip if that's crossed your mind, unless it's dirt cheap. The Q8200 is a terrible clocker.
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post #3 of 14
You're fine. Those cards will be good with any quad core.
post #4 of 14
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Thought so, the 9600GT is just terrible atm.

Well, what card would be the best to go with:

The GTX 460 or 470?
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post #5 of 14
some games that only allow 2 cores will be bottlenecked by your processor because it will only be able to use 2 cores at 2.33ghz.

In this case a dual core with a higher clock of say 3.2 or 3.6ghz will excel.

However you will see a nice boost in performance, and in games that use more than 2 cores I would not worry about bottlenecking.
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post #6 of 14
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Originally Posted by ExplosiveBacon View Post
You're fine. Those cards will be good with any quad core.
No--the Q8200 is only 2.3 GHz. It will most definitely be the limiting performer with a 460 or 470. My 2180 at 2.0GHz is holding my HD 5750, which is much less powerful than a 460 or 470.

OP, you should be able to play most games fine, but you might notice slowdowns here or there. To be honest, just get the gfx card, see how things go, and think about possible cpu/system upgrades later. It's not like you won't be able to play games, only that your CPU might not allow your gfx card to function at full potential--but it'll still be fine 99.9% of the time.
    
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post #7 of 14
Get the GTX460 as the extra performance GTX470 offers will not be a big thing for your system.
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post #8 of 14
There will be a bottleneck. But you can try to overclock it to 2.8 That's as high as you can go with this chip (as Ive seen). Because Of the locked multi.
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I recommend you get the GTX460 1GB. The 470 has unnecessarily high power consumption, and a 460 overclocks really well anyways. It's a better match for your system.
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post #10 of 14
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Rodger that, thanks for the help folks!
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