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It's probably a good idea to have a chat with them about just how nasty the internet can be. How many of the things they see on the internet aren't necessarily healthy/normal.
I know that I have certainly seen plenty of things that I never want my kids to see (when I have kids). I don't think there is any possible way to stop them from seeing everything that is bad. Might as well address the issue directly and just have a talk with them about it.
    
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yes it sees loads of packets but you can filter it and it is free.
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It's probably a good idea to have a chat with them about just how nasty the internet can be. How many of the things they see on the internet aren't necessarily healthy/normal.
I know that I have certainly seen plenty of things that I never want my kids to see (when I have kids). I don't think there is any possible way to stop them from seeing everything that is bad. Might as well address the issue directly and just have a talk with them about it.
That is VERY sound advice. However security will still need to be addressed.

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yes it sees loads of packets but you can filter it and it is free.
Any sniffer will show you all the packets, however most people don't know how to filter it properly.
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This can be by-passed in about 15 seconds. (since port 53 to any WAN is blocked) WRONG. If you block port 53 the only thing that wont work is typing in the FQDN. The site is still accessible via the IP address. What you are meaning is forcing everything through 1 Proxy Server which can still be by-passed. The only way to prevent certain pages/sites from being accessible is by either a IP block, or by Layer 4-7 Web content filtering.
of course, but chances are the kid wont know the actual IP of said sites.

I didnt want the guy to have to buy something, but in any case he can still just use an open source firewall platform like PfSense (which I use personally), Untangle, or w/e if he has a spare computer lying around. No need to buy a device. Paying for an IDS/IPS for your home? pls.

Not sure about others, but pfsense has an option to ignore input by IP.
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if you dont want them to do bad stuff show them a blue waffle... EWWWWWWWWWWWWW! It'll work



Really dont show them that its awful...
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of course, but chances are the kid wont know the actual IP of said sites.

I didnt want the guy to have to buy something, but in any case he can still just use an open source firewall platform like PfSense (which I use personally), Untangle, or w/e if he has a spare computer lying around. No need to buy a device. Paying for an IDS/IPS for your home? pls.

Not sure about others, but pfsense has an option to ignore input by IP.
Ignorance is bliss eh? Just like my system is so rare I will never get a virus and they don't write virus's for my OS. Mac users swore up and down they were safe.
1. you don't know the age of the kids or what they have access to, hell for that matter how smart they are.
2. Ring Ring, hey johnny how do i get to that site you told me about? Oh go here or use this.

IDS/IPS is built into the functionality of the device I mentioned. I guess you completely missed the entire section on content filtering.
Read up on Layer 4 redirects with content filtering.
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Meh pfsense can do IDS/IPS and content filtering and redirection if you want. For free, given you have an old computer lying around. The Netgear device isnt that special.

nice condescension btw. I dont really care what your little subtitle is. And the device you linked has some pretty crappy reviews.

I've set up a pfsense box at my old job, with Snort on WAN and LAN to block malware we might get in the shop on a customer computer. Worked perfectly. Uptime has been in the months, except for the occasional restart for patches. Used an old Dell P4 that we had lying around.

Install squid proxy + squidgard (along with updated blacklists, for free) = content filter, for free.

If you want to dumb down setup even further, install Untangle, Endian, Clear OS, etc...
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I never said that specific box was the only choice, which you assumed I did. Personally I use a Juniper SSG, which most people are not willing to spend that kinda of money on at home.

However the OP doesn't sound like they do network security and their skillset sounds lacking. Can other products work yes. Is it still going to be somewhat of a learning curve for them it sounds like yes.
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