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It must be the easiest profession to get into, all you need is the ability to see one example of something and assume that it applies to every case that follows.
As essentially a scientist myself, I'm obligated to tell you that you're being extremely ignorant.

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Gotta love how a hack scientist will vouch for this and all of a sudden ALL of science is supporting it in their eyes.

This has nothing to do with science and everything to do with politics. Cigarettes are not about politics. How is this warranted?



You should join their club. You love blanket statements too.
I can't agree more.

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You win. Huge +1
Oh look! Someone from the bible belt denying the scientific method! See! I can make ignorant blanket statements too! HERP DERP
    
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**** off

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Warning label not too bad. The Australian government are so pathetically stupid they have no 18+ rating for games so they ban them. I think it's only about 8 games so far but everyone thinks it's absurd. Can get em on Amazon or whatever anyway. They're supposed to be bringing in an 18+ rating soon so no games will be banned. I envy the States no games have been banned yet that I know of.
In the States can't you buy an M-16 in K-mart in some states? And these idiots are worried about a game.
No, because the m16 is an automatic select-fire, therefor an NFA firearm, and not sold in a retail store like K-Mart or Wal-Mart. The AR15 is the semi-automatic only sporting rifle akin to the m16 that you are probably thinking of. It's no different or more dangerous than a .22 caliber Remington 552.

Personally, I'd love to see rifles like that sold in a more mainstream environment like that. Maybe we would have less people that are afraid of polymer and parkerizing.
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Ahh, I see why you confused the two. That was my bad. I didn't intend for the two statements to go hand in hand. It was one statement to imply the research is all correlation. The statement following, "This is why science is ..." was a response directly to the article itself, not a response to my previous statement. xD


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Oh look! Someone from the bible belt denying the scientific method! See! I can make ignorant blanket statements too! HERP DERP
It has nothing to do with the "bible belt". The fact is, scientist just guess until it looks right. Then a few years later, it is disproved and something else is concluded.

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As essentially a scientist myself, I'm obligated to tell you that you're being extremely ignorant.
Well, scientifically... If he is ignorant and he knows the basic structure of scientific research, then that must mean anyone who knows the basic structure of scientific research is ignorant. This implies, all scientists are ignorant.
lawlz fail science is fail.
Edited by Zinxe - 1/27/11 at 11:14am
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lawl?

Video games wont make you go kill someone just cause its violent, if that is true then movies, tv shows, pictures everything you see or hear should just have a big fat warning slapped on it...Yea that makes a lot of sense...maybe its not the video games maybe its the person playing them who is jacked up in the head to begin with. Parents need to stop worrying so much about trying to keep this away from there kids they go to school they will see or hear about it no matter how much you earmuff them.
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During the course of my studying for my Psychology degree I took a course and then subsequently completed research with my professor on Media Violence and its effects.

That professor's book, "Children, Adolescents, and Media Violence: A Critical Look at the Research", reviews and critiques literally every single study ever done on the effects of violent media on children. Of course of particular interest are the effects of violent video games on children and teens.

After reading through the entire book with a psychologist's mind and extensive training in research methodology, I can tell you that there is no such thing as violent media causing aggressive behavior. For anyone, parent, politician or priest, to say that the research shows otherwise demonstrates that they are either twisting results to fit their agenda, or demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of research methodology and normative child development.

I honestly recommend everyone reading this post to check out Dr. Kirsh's book (used copies for under $4 on amazon, link at bottom of post). Most studies on violent media are correlational, and the ones that are not are not making the correct differentiation between "aggression" and "play". Hitting "Bozo the clown" after watching an adult hit "Bozo the Clown" (an extremely 'influential' study in media violence for some reason) does NOT mean that "children become violent by watching others be violent" or "children are aggressive after watching a display of aggression". Everyone in that study were smiling cheerfully as they smacked the clown toy that is made to be smacked and always stands back up.... it's play, not aggression.

Take everything you read about this topic with a grain of salt, including what I am typing right now. Check out the book and look at the real research, then form your own informed, unbiased opinion.

You do not need to defend gaming just because you like it, you can defend gaming because there honestly is no scientific data supporting causality. Also keep in mind, that when it comes to research, only findings that demonstrate a statistical effect get published. Meaning there are many, many studies done that find no effect, and no one hears about all those studies. Point being, all the studies in Dr. Kirsh’s book had to find some statistically significant effect. They were the “best studies†so to speak, and they are almost all still pretty terrible lol.

NOTE: If a game has an 18+ Mature rating, then don't be an irresponsible parent and give it to your 12 year old child just because they cry for it. It has nothing to do with causing violent behavior, it has to do with inundating our children with things like sex and graphic violence before they have the mental capability to process these things, both emotionally and spiritually. Mature violent content in a game is HIGHLY correlated with "rough-and-tumble" play which can be very dangerous in the wrong situations (faking a wrestling match and getting injured or killed, playing with weapons like the videogame and getting injured or killed). But there is a massive difference between play and aggression.

There are many risk factors for children behaving aggressively, violent media exposure is one bean on a scale, a scale where if there is enough beans the scale might tip and a child act aggressively.

11 year old Jimmy didn't bully, attack and kill Tommy because he played GTA4. Having parents who let 11 year-old Jimmy play GTA4 has more to with it than playing the game itself (lack of PARENTAL monitoring and limit-setting is MUCH more highly correlated with disruptive, aggressive and/or illegal behavior).

This started scientifically and turned into a rant. Oh well.

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Just what the **** do they think that giant "M" rating that is plastered on to the case is for? Seriously.
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lawl?
Parents need to stop worrying so much about trying to keep this away from there kids they go to school they will see or hear about it no matter how much you earmuff them.
Disagree. There is a HUGE difference between a parent condoning something and a parent understanding that regardless of their disapproval of something, their child will still likely encounter it.

If you as a parent clearly disapprove of something, you are setting limits and allowing your child to understand what you feel is acceptable and unacceptable... what is safe and what is potentially harmful.

Just because I know my kids will hear swearing on the school bus doesn't mean I let them swear at home. What you teach your children while they are young (if you teach it and LIVE it yourself) becomes interalized as part of their own worldview, part of what they understand as positive and negative, good and bad.

It matters. The PROBLEM is that parents already care too little, or they care but demonstrate their concern in inappropriate, ineffective ways.

Sidenote: there have been numerous studies done on what is called in Research-Land the "forbidden fruit effect". To dumb-down the methodology and make it typable for me...Rap CD's were studied where the exact same CD's were shown to two different groups of kids that were demographically matched through random assignment. One group was asked to rate their desire to buy/listen to a CD (which happened to have a "parental advisory" sticker on it. The second group was asked the same question about the exact same CD, but this one had the parental advisory sticker removed. The results demonstrated that CD's with a parental advisory sticker are more desirable to young people.

A videogame warning would likely have a similar effect, making kids want to play them even more. Whatever that actually means, its just funny and ironic that a warning like this would likely cause more parents to buy the game for their kids, because their kids will cry harder for it... and we all know how good parents are at saying no to the temper tantrum.....

Sorry for the long posts... I'm just passionate (and somewhat knowledgeable) about the topic...
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Why don't they put them on books while they're at it?
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Thank you thank you thank you for giving some useful insight. Most of the responses here are appalling.
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