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Poll Results: Which is better for image quality?

 
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    IPS
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    Plasma
  • 6% (4)
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post #21 of 44
Since a lot of dirt WAS thrown around, I've cleaned this and will now address this the way it should have been:
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Originally Posted by jy360;12164048 
where have you been? I saw 5 million:1 screens appearing early last year, my phone its self is 100,000 to 1 and its AMOLED. heres an example of a 5 million to one led back lit monitor http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-033-BQ

Dynamic contrast is measured using companies' own specs and not an official standard; therefore it is to be treated as a made-up spec. Static contrast on most PC monitors never exceeds 3,000 or so, and maybe 5,000-6,000 on some TVs, however AMVA5 panels may change that if they come to the market (18,000:1 static contrast on a 55" demo TV).
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Get a Pioneer KRP-500M and don't look back smile.gif
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post #23 of 44
I have even heard companies go as far as to claim infinite contrast ratios. Now obviously they are talking about dynamic, but still it just shows how big of a marketing ploy it really is.
    
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post #24 of 44
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Originally Posted by Chunky_Chimp;12168886 
Since a lot of dirt WAS thrown around, I've cleaned this and will now address this the way it should have been:



Dynamic contrast is measured using companies' own specs and not an official standard; therefore it is to be treated as a made-up spec. Static contrast on most PC monitors never exceeds 3,000 or so, and maybe 5,000-6,000 on some TVs, however AMVA5 panels may change that if they come to the market (18,000:1 static contrast on a 55" demo TV).

I will have to google about that new technology. Sounds intriguing.

Would things like photo editing do fine on a plasma given its great color quality?
post #25 of 44
Quote:
Originally Posted by RoddimusPrime;12169241 
I will have to google about that new technology. Sounds intriguing.

Would things like photo editing do fine on a plasma given its great color quality?

There's not much information available right now about it... I expected it to be on the market by now but I guess they're having to delay it.

Couldn't tell you, honestly. There aren't that many people using plasma TVs as monitors.
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post #26 of 44
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Originally Posted by tconroy135;12163435 
I have never like two monitors unless I am actually using two different rigs. I think the diference is you can get an excellent IPS panel for $1k, but the same quality plasma might run you around $2k(but would certainly perform better in games).

When choosing Plasma the only choice for mainstream is Panasonic others are crap.

I used to use this for my monitor, but now I mounted it to the wall as a TV. The tech for this was sold to Panasonic when Pioneer left the market.

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/Plasma/PRO-111FD

PRO-111FD_med.jpg




They sold the tech to Panasonic.

Panasonic never actually ended up buying the Pioneer Tech. They were planning to, but at the last minute pioneer declined to give up the technology, wanting to re-enter the market in a few years when the economy is better.


I use that same PRO-111FD as my primary monitor, and the video quality still leaves every other TV/monitor I have seen in the dust. The only problem is that when you get a quality Hi-res monitor, there's no going back.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chunky_Chimp;12168886 
Since a lot of dirt WAS thrown around, I've cleaned this and will now address this the way it should have been:



Dynamic contrast is measured using companies' own specs and not an official standard; therefore it is to be treated as a made-up spec. Static contrast on most PC monitors never exceeds 3,000 or so, and maybe 5,000-6,000 on some TVs, however AMVA5 panels may change that if they come to the market (18,000:1 static contrast on a 55" demo TV).

What they do to sell more TV's is just crazy... a lot of manufacturers even fake static ratios by using (intentionally) miscalibrated sensors.
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There's not much information available right now about it... I expected it to be on the market by now but I guess they're having to delay it.

Couldn't tell you, honestly. There aren't that many people using plasma TVs as monitors.

I have to say that as a computer monitor, you can't even compare an IPS to a plasma. Assuming you have quality panels, the color reproduction accuracy, black levels, motion handling, and video scaling on plasma's are just so far ahead of IPS panels. The only downside to using plasma as a computer monitor is that if you sit really close to it, you may notice a very small amount of flicker on the panel in your peripheral vision.
    
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post #27 of 44
As a technology, plasma screens are better than LCDs in every way except one - maximum brightness. And that's only because you can put a backlight as bright as you want behind an LCD as long as you can dissipate the heat. In every other aspect of picture quality - contrast ratio, refresh rate, response time (or more accurately called "phosphor decay time" with plasmas and CRTs), color accuracy, gamut, and so on and so forth, LCDs can't come close to what plasma has to offer.

However, as far as commercial products go, mid-to-high end IPS monitors are better than plasma TVs (I'm using the U3011/ZR30w as a baseline, forget cheap stuff like the U2311h). Plasma TVs have one big drawback, which is that they are limited by their controllers. The highest resolution any of them can input is 1080p@60Hz, when in reality the panel is a lot better than that. 50" and larger plasmas can easily be 4096 pixels wide, and refresh at 600Hz. This requires a lot more bandwith than any current display standard can provide. So you ALWAYS end up with a scaled image, and that doesn't usually look too good.
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post #28 of 44
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Originally Posted by Manyak;12171385 
As a technology, plasma screens are better than LCDs in every way except one - maximum brightness. And that's only because you can put a backlight as bright as you want behind an LCD as long as you can dissipate the heat. In every other aspect of picture quality - contrast ratio, refresh rate, response time (or more accurately called "phosphor decay time" with plasmas and CRTs), color accuracy, gamut, and so on and so forth, LCDs can't come close to what plasma has to offer.

However, as far as commercial products go, mid-to-high end IPS monitors are better than plasma TVs (I'm using the U3011/ZR30w as a baseline, forget cheap stuff like the U2311h). Plasma TVs have one big drawback, which is that they are limited by their controllers. The highest resolution any of them can input is 1080p@60Hz, when in reality the panel is a lot better than that. 50" and larger plasmas can easily be 4096 pixels wide, and refresh at 600Hz. This requires a lot more bandwith than any current display standard can provide. So you ALWAYS end up with a scaled image, and that doesn't usually look too good.

Very informative, I wish I could rep you.

One question though, plasmas aren't suitable for desktop use due to burn in correct? Last I checked this was still an issue.
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post #29 of 44
Sorry but Panasonic is not the only way to go when it comes to plasmas. Samsung Plasma tv's are of a very high quality and in some cases have better color accuracy and blacks than Panasonics.
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post #30 of 44
Quote:
Originally Posted by Varjo;12189786 
Very informative, I wish I could rep you.

One question though, plasmas aren't suitable for desktop use due to burn in correct? Last I checked this was still an issue.

Newer plasmas can only get burn-in during the first 200 hours or so. After that you're in the clear. You'll still get temporary image retention though, which does get annoying, but it decreases with age.

The problem is quickly disappearing though - each new iteration of plasma TVs has less of an IR problem than the previous one. After all, it's the same thing we went through with CRTs, and just as we 'conquered' those we will conquer plasmas too. (And just an FYI - screensavers were invented to prevent CRT burn-in back in the day, and now they can be used just as well on plasmas too smile.gif).

Edit: Just to give you an idea of where we're at now - I bought my plasma TV exactly 1 year and 1 month ago, and today the longest I see an image retained on it is between 30-60 seconds. And that's only after leaving an explorer window open against a black background for 10-15 minutes on my HTPC. Windows opened for only a minute or two have about 5 seconds of IR. But when it was brand new, 1 minute on screen equaled 1 minute retained (give or take).
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