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NH-D14 (Noctua Heatsink - Dual 14)
Their names are super easy to figure.
I already knew the NH-C14 would have that name when they released info about making a low profile cooler since NH-C14 stands for Noctua Heatsink - Compact 14.
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post #22 of 32
Quote:
Originally Posted by ehume;12171366 
I'm finding that a third fan generally does not add much. But I'm just starting the formal testing. I'll know more in a few months.



why didn't you just leave the case's 120mm fan on instead of putting it right on the HSF. Does the same thing.
post #23 of 32
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Master Chief;12187161 
why didn't you just leave the case's 120mm fan on instead of putting it right on the HSF. Does the same thing.

No, it doesn't. A rear case fan just makes noise and may impede airflow. Unless it can handle the output of your heatsink and still draw from your case, it's not an adequate fan. A fan adequate to that task makes lots of noise.

Leaving the back open and having throughput on your heatsink - even if it is only a push fan - will entrain case air, so you will have adequate ventilation at a cost of almost no noise (air going out does make a faint sound).

As for the effectiveness of letting the heatsink exhaust your case, look at item 2 in my sig.
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Originally Posted by ehume;12187820 
As for the effectiveness of letting the heatsink exhaust your case, look at item 2 in my sig.
I've experimented a bit tonight and found:

1. If I turn off all the intake/outtake fans, my H50 in push-pull is sufficient to create a similar negative pressure scenario, complete with hanging a kleenex at the front if I seal off the top vents. Spent far too much time playing with the fan controller to see how low I could go until the kleenex dropped, actually.

2. Conversely, I can safely run my H50 radiator passively if I switch all the case fans to intake at low RPM. The positive pressure is doing almost as much work as the former HSF fans at ejecting hot air from the case, and they're quieter too! (Even did a 10m OCCT run, but I had to crank the case fans to keep it under 50C.)

Fun stuff.
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Originally Posted by deimos3428;12192763 
I've experimented a bit tonight and found:

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2. Conversely, I can safely run my H50 radiator passively if I switch all the case fans to intake at low RPM. The positive pressure is doing almost as much work as the former HSF fans at ejecting hot air from the case, and they're quieter too! (Even did a 10m OCCT run, but I had to crank the case fans to keep it under 50C.)

Fun stuff.

Now that is fun stuff indeed. A passive radiator. Amazing what you find out when you play experiment.
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Sorry to resurrect this thread if its already dead.

But I am also having a hard time choosing over the D14 and C14.

This march the NZXT Phantom 410 mid tower case will be out and I am thinking of getting it since my case is a cheapo Coolermaster value case that is already breaking apart and is limiting my upgrade capability.

Here are my concerns

1. I am leaning on getting the C14. Not only do I like the aesthetics of it, I am thinking the D14 is so heavy that it may affect and warp my motherboard.

2. This is going to be my first aftermarket cooler purchase though and I would really like to get it right as I don't buy things frequently. I would like my cooler to still be compatible with future builds.

3. I have an ASUS p3p45td USB 3.0 motherboard and I have read some comments of people who have used the D14 that it has some compatibility issues with ram heat sinks. -- this makes me lean more on getting the C14 - as it has the option of removing one of the fans underneath. What is the real deal regarding that though? I want to buy kingston T1 ram modules and they have high profile heat sinks. I am not sure if the D14 will get in the way of this. Maybe I am getting this wrong? Maybe I will also have problems with the noctua C14 -- enlighten me please

4. I only have an Intel q6600 which honestly rarely heats up even if I am on a stock cooler. But it pays to be safe. besides... who would not want their processors to run cooler than expected? In relation to this... which cools better? Does the D14 cool better because it has two of those copper fin-thingys? -- what are those called by the way? If they cool the same... then i'd still go for the C14. Besides the reason I want to upgrade my cooler is that I also want to hike up my ram to 1600 from 1333. Someone has already informed me that I have already overclocked my system (i was unaware) because I was running my ram at 1333. and my procie is just supposed to be stock at 2.4 -- its runnign 3.0 on load and I imagine if I hike my ram up to 1600 it will go up over 3.4? -- again please enlighten me

5. I heard noctua is kind enough to include their trusty and high quality thermal compound when you buy a box of their cooler. Is this true?
post #27 of 32
I went with the NH-D14 and am completely happy, although I needed the extra cooling power in my situation. In fact, the D14 is less heavy than some of my old Zalman coolers for the socket 939. But to address your concerns:

1. The D14 is heavy, but not so heavy as to warp boards. Most contemporary MBs easily can take the "strain" of the weight. Just make sure the MB is well secured to the case.

2. Assuming that you don't buy a smaller case in the future, the D14 will be fine. Especially since Noctua sells kits to fit them to new sockets (also work for the C14). The D14's performance though will make it a contender for years to come.

3. Noctua does provide a guide as to which RAM fits, but it doesn't list all the varieties. Looking at the T1 you discussed, I doubt those will fit in the first RAM slots. Basically any RAM with big fins on top won't fit underneath the heatsink. If, on the other hand, you set the 140mm fan so that it pokes out the bottom of the D14 fin stacks, then you'll get airflow over the chipset and RAM, thus letting you get away with not having the big fins on the RAM.

4. I haven't seen a direct comparison between the C14 and the D14. But, given that the D14 is one of the best on the market and is a larger heatsink, one should expect it to outperfom the C14.

5. That is true.
post #28 of 32
Quote:
Originally Posted by Droviin View Post

I went with the NH-D14 and am completely happy, although I needed the extra cooling power in my situation. In fact, the D14 is less heavy than some of my old Zalman coolers for the socket 939. But to address your concerns:
I haven't seen a direct comparison between the C14 and the D14. But, given that the D14 is one of the best on the market and is a larger heatsink, one should expect it to outperfom the C14.

This is really what I am really interested in. Because right now I don't like the bulky-ness of the D14. But if it significantly outperforms the C14 then I will go for it.

In my country they have the same price and that is the reason I am having a tough time to decide. Had the C14 been cheaper then no questions asked I'll get the C14
post #29 of 32
There is one other thing I would like to ask.

Do the prices of these things depreciate and how fast?

The retailers here say that the phantom 410 will be available around march. But who really knows if that is true. I can't get any decent cooler with the case that I am currently using since it restricts the space.
But then I guess I can buy the cooler earlier and just remove the side cover of my case so it will fit. That is why I want to also know if these things grow cheaper fast... if waiting till march is a better idea then I'll wait but if its going to be the same price on march then I'll just buy it now and protect my processor earlier.
post #30 of 32
Hello ppl. I had the same dilemma, had to chose between the two coolers listed above. I originaly have orderd the D14 one, but my dealer gave me C14 ( " by a mistake..." ). And i had to chose to either keep C14 one, or to wait another week or so to be changed for D14. I kept C14 smile.gif
And i'm completely satisfied. The one thing i dont care about, it is rly smaller, and very easy to mount, but that's not an issue to me, cuz i have a full tower case. Anyway, the other thing is, it comes with two 14s, ( 2xNF-P14 ), i like this one cuz they runs rly cool, and super quiet smile.gif
The clock results it handles are : 3570k @ 4600mhz. @ 1.30v. keeping 78-80C. under continuous prime sterss test, peaking at 84 max for few seconds, only the hohttest core.
Under normal coditions, like gaming i barely hit 60C. I'm happy with that smile.gif
I dunno if the D14 would have been better, i probably would have been able to squize another 100 or even 200 mhz with it ( i rly don't know if it is that much better though ). But in that case i should have risen the voltage to levels i dont like for 24/7, so my chose completely satisfies me smile.gif
Edited by ryanfilipsss - 9/28/12 at 12:00am
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