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If you want to remain budget minded, Id pay a little more for the Nikon now and then start hunting for old lenses that are in good/ excellent condition. You will have SOOOOOOO many cheap, excellent options going that route.

With Canon, its not as flexible. But what will you be shooting?
Its just going to be a hobby so ill just be shooting random things that catch my eye Im not getting it for any particular type of shoots, so ill be doing plants, scenery, animals, people etc.

I plan on using my kit lens for a while before upgrading(maybe a year or longer) and once I see the need to upgrade I wont be looking into lens that are really expensive.
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Hey, so I made a quick used buying guide for you:

Used Rebel XSi on POTN
Used 18-55mm IS on POTN
New Class 6 Transcend 8GB SDHC card
Generic DSLR camera bag


Estimated cost: $480.

So ~$50 difference

And you could put the difference to something like this maybe!


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If you want to remain budget minded, Id pay a little more for the Nikon now and then start hunting for old lenses that are in good/ excellent condition. You will have SOOOOOOO many cheap, excellent options going that route.

With Canon, its not as flexible. But what will you be shooting?
I'd think that's a bad idea. The entry level Nikon bodies lack an in-body AF motor, while cheaper/older Nikon lenses are usually AF lenses, which cannot autofocus on those bodies.


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what do you guys think about this nice camera: I really want it

It's the Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH2H inculding a Lumix G Vario 14-140mm Lens

[Snip GH2 photos]
Personally, I wouldn't.

A lot of DSLRs these days can shoot video. The problem I have with Panasonic is that their lens library is lacking. When you buy a camera, you also buy into a system (that is, you don't buy a Panasonic with the intent of using Canon lenses, for example).
Edited by r31ncarnat3d - 1/27/11 at 11:25pm
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Why not? they're the only company that still makes everything that goe's into their camera's, they don't outsource anything to anyone and that keeps me a loyal Canon person myself.
I mean it's not like they're using some unknown 3rd party source. Some of the Nikon dslrs use Sony sensors which are damn sharp. Actually I believe the newer Nikons that are coming out aren't even using Sony sensors anymore(which again wasn't a problem anyways).

http://nikonrumors.com/2011/01/26/th...spx#more-17209

Alright, I know it's not that most credible source lol but they got their information from chipworks. I'm not saying Canon's are bad cameras but there are other good alternatives too look at. Don't just limit yourself to canons.
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Hey, so I made a quick used buying guide for you:

Used Rebel XSi on POTN
Used 18-55mm IS on POTN
New Class 6 Transcend 8GB SDHC card
New Opteka Battery w/ Battery Charger

Estimated cost: $480.

So ~$50 difference

And you could put the difference to something like this maybe!




I'd think that's a bad idea. The entry level Nikon bodies lack an in-body AF motor, while cheaper/older Nikon lenses are usually AF lenses, which cannot autofocus on those bodies.
thanks. If I were to buy that one I could remove those two
New Class 6 Transcend 8GB SDHC card
because the camera comes with a battery and a memory card, I could then buy those later on when I have more money.
Ill also look into that other lens you posted.
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Oh and Digital Artist, the GH2 is a fantastic camera. It's capable of taking good stills and GREAT video. I had the GH1 before and while I was impressed with it's video capabilities, I personally was a bit let down by the stills. I'm not saying it was bad but personally I just didn't like it too much =/. My friend that had a micro 4/3 camera was able to put out amazing photos but then again he was pretty talented at photography. I just didn't like how the images overall looked more dull, less DOF and a bigger crop factor. BUT you're able have a wider selection of vintage lenses.. Something about the 4/3 mount that allows you to mount a wider variety of lenses.

So if you need a video camera... GH2 = Beast but for stills... meh.
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thanks. If I were to buy that one I could remove those two
New Class 6 Transcend 8GB SDHC card
New Opteka Battery w/ Battery Charger because the camera comes with a battery and a memory card, I could then buy those later on when I have more money.
Ill also look into that other lens you posted.
I missed the battery and I agree with dropping it out of the shopping list, but I noticed the memory card and I'd still keep it. RAW files are roughly 1.1MB per MP, which means if you were to shoot in RAW, each image would take up roughly 13.2MBs. Just my two cents

Also, I also added in a DSLR bag (had the link and bag in my total, but forgot to add the link). However, Adorama has a lot of cheap bags that'll get the job done, so if you just want something simple that works, just browse around there


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Oh and Digital Artist, the GH2 is a fantastic camera. It's capable of taking good stills and GREAT video. I had the GH1 before and while I was impressed with it's video capabilities, I personally was a bit let down by the stills. I'm not saying it was bad but personally I just didn't like it too much =/. My friend that had a micro 4/3 camera was able to put out amazing photos but then again he was pretty talented at photography. I just didn't like how the images overall looked more dull, less DOF and a bigger crop factor. BUT you're able have a wider selection of vintage lenses.. Something about the 4/3 mount that allows you to mount a wider variety of lenses.

So if you need a video camera... GH2 = Beast but for stills... meh.
Why not just buy a video camera?
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I missed the battery and I agree with dropping it out of the shopping list, but I noticed the memory card and I'd still keep it. RAW files are roughly 1.1MB per MP, which means if you were to shoot in RAW, each image would take up roughly 13.2MBs. Just my two cents

Also, I also added in a DSLR bag (had the link and bag in my total, but forgot to add the link). However, Adorama has a lot of cheap bags that'll get the job done, so if you just want something simple that works, just browse around there


Why not just buy a video camera?
Yeah I do plan on shooting in RAW, I would also get a higher capacity card it just would have to wait until another paycheck.

Thanks for all the help propped everyone that was of assistance
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Oh and Digital Artist, the GH2 is a fantastic camera. It's capable of taking good stills and GREAT video. I had the GH1 before and while I was impressed with it's video capabilities, I personally was a bit let down by the stills. I'm not saying it was bad but personally I just didn't like it too much =/. My friend that had a micro 4/3 camera was able to put out amazing photos but then again he was pretty talented at photography. I just didn't like how the images overall looked more dull, less DOF and a bigger crop factor. BUT you're able have a wider selection of vintage lenses.. Something about the 4/3 mount that allows you to mount a wider variety of lenses.

So if you need a video camera... GH2 = Beast but for stills... meh.

thx for the feedback. yea i'm actually more interested in its video recording capabilities rather than the stills.
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Why not just buy a video camera? tongue.gif

What do YOU think is the best handheld video camera out there for +/- 1 grand?
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thx for the feedback. yea i'm actually more interested in its video recording capabilities rather than the stills.



What do YOU think is the best handheld video recorder out there for +/- 1 grand?
Unfortunately I can't answer that. I'm a photographer Sorry!

We do have a separate video camera forum, so why not post a thread there?
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thx for the feedback. yea i'm actually more interested in its video recording capabilities rather than the stills.



What do YOU think is the best handheld video camera out there for +/- 1 grand?
I know you're not asking me but I still feel the need to butt in. I don't think there's any handheld camcorder that will beat the GH1/2 under 2 grand.

In my opinion, the GH2 is the best DSLR(technically an EVIL but I say DSLR because it has a similar form factor/shape) with video capabilities under 2 grand. The only drawback I see it having it that the sensor is SLIGHTLY smaller than a t2i/60D/7d sensor, which doesn't perform quite as well under low light but who wants to shoot under **** light anyway?

It really all comes down to aesthetics... People tend to prefer that soft dreamier look on canons but the GH2 has a more organic film look too it. I can't really describe it but I suggest watching videos to get an idea.

A couple of GH2 vids:
http://vimeo.com/19016370
http://vimeo.com/18718813

Canon T2i, which looks the same as 7D/60D.
http://vimeo.com/17497343
http://vimeo.com/15865076

Not the best comparisons because of varying factors like better color grade/editing that might persuade you to one side more. But this should give you a bit of an idea.

btw, can you embed vimeo vids?
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