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So you bought a cheap, mainstream budget board, that lacks a VRM heatsink... and you wanted to overclock on it... and have it run zero problems....

I think there's an issue that lies between the tower and the chair; and it's train of thought is broken.
Eh, I overclocked on a 4phase no VRM heatsinked Gigabyte P43 board, ran stable for ages.
    
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Eh, I overclocked on a 4phase no VRM heatsinked Gigabyte P43 board, ran stable for ages.
You're just asking for trouble at that point.
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You're just asking for trouble at that point.
It ran fine folding 24/7 until I took it apart earlier this year to sell the entire rig.
    
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I guess a lot of people like having buggy motherboards (generalized from my own personal experience from using ASRock motherboards--there was always something(s) buggy with them).
    
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You can't trust Tom's Hardware for crap. Half their "testing" isn't even done by the staff. It's done off site and results are sent to them.

Still; I did get that name wrong.

And no, the Gigabyte GA-790FXT-UD5P was better than the UD5, same with the UD4 vs the UD4P.

Crosshair III was a mediocre board at best.

The MSI GD70 only had it's layout going for it. It still uses the archaic 4+1 Power Phase design which is used on the 890FX from them as well. Which causes the boards to burn with highly overclocked quads or Overclocked x6's.
Is bit-tech a trusted source?

GA-790FXT-UD5P:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/mot...ud5p-review/12

790FXB-M3H5:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/mot...m3h5-review/12

790FX-GD70:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/mot...-790fx-gd70/14

These sites seem to like the board as well.

Bjorn3d:
http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1589&pageID=7025

Hardware Canucks:
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...review-17.html

I'm not saying that it's the greatest board, but I would at least call it decent. On another note, I know more phases is usually indicative of greater voltage stability, but can higher quality components make up the difference. I don't think this is the case for the MSI boards even if they state 'Military Class Components' since you mentioned ones burning out. Maybe in the case of one of the best overclockers like the Biostar 890FXE which has 4+2 phases.
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I'm not saying that it's the greatest board, but I would at least call it decent. On another note, I know more phases is usually indicative of greater voltage stability, but can higher quality components make up the difference. I don't think this is the case for the MSI boards even if they state 'Military Class Components' since you mentioned ones burning out. Maybe in the case of one of the best overclockers like the Biostar 890FXE which has 4+2 phases.
Better components can make up for it; and most review sites are not to be trusted as they don't know what they're looking for. Nor do they really play a long with the board long enough to find quirks.

I owned every board from the first batch of AM3 790FX boards and benched with all of them.

Asus had stupid memory problems.
Gigabyte replaced good boards with boards that had bad BIOS support (UD5P to UD5)
MSI didn't bench memory well at all. Shoddy build quality with lack luster components.

Biostar TA890FXE uses a better MOSFET driver and better MOSFETs themselves (which is why the Heatsink itself runs cooler under testing and load conditions as well.)

Though what you're talking about are actually chokes. A phase is actually a channel.

You should read here about Mobo components and such. (I started on Phases for you, but you may wish to skip to the beginning.)
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Thx for link tator tot. very informative. I will say I just purchased the 870 extreme3, for my wife. I will be taken over leftovers in sig.I think, I will be pleased with Asrock..I was die hard dfi...Will finally retire this one.DFI LANPARTY NFII ULTRA B(dinasaur)
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I think Asrock boards have come along way and are currently a very good board to consider for sandybridge, unlike the unreliable offerings from asus
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