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Oh, wait a minute. Ok. Now I found these details:

Even if Other OS was in huge bold print and said "Buy a PS3, it offers an Other OS feature!" The terms of agreement state they can alter and remove any features through software updates. So, you bought the product, it did have the advertised feature, but they removed it years later due to security issues. Sounds pretty fair and legitimate to me.

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I really don't mean to play devil's advocate at all here, but everyone who feels Geohot/anyone has every right to break the code in the PS3 (in addition, releasing the tools allowing millions of people to do so) is living in their own world.
I wasnt really trying to argue rather or not the Other OS was legal or not for them to remove but the fact consumers see it as a "Advertised Feature" cause Sony did push that as a capability and when removing that stirred up these hackers to put it back and in the process got alot more than I wish they would have. Basically I was trying to prove that at some point it was on the box and advertised as capability. I understand under the agreement they can chage whatever they want on the software front. Personally I could care less but I can see others quite miffed about its removal.
     
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I wasnt really trying to argue rather or not the Other OS was legal or not for them to remove but the fact consumers see it as a "Advertised Feature" cause Sony did push that as a capability and when removing that stirred up these hackers to put it back and in the process got alot more than I wish they would have. Basically I was trying to prove that at some point it was on the box and advertised as capability. I understand under the agreement they can chage whatever they want on the software front. Personally I could care less but I can see others quite miffed about its removal.
Yea, I'm proven wrong, it could have been on the box as a feature I guess. I'd still like to see a photo. And yea, there's still the argument that Sony had every right to remove that feature. I think I'm going to back away from debating the right/wrong topic any more, I went into it enough in all the other threads about Geo/Sony.
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Good. I hope that they're able to patch the hole up. That would mean Geohot is either facing prison time or serious fees for nothing. Many will still hold off on updating and just continue pirating, but they won't be able to access PSN.
I hope that a 21 year engineering genius goes to prison because Sony isn't making enough money!!1!11shift+1

Seriously, look up what GeoHotz has done over his lifetime. I doubt anybody here can match his track record (and I'm talking about things he's done that have nothing to do with hacking the iPhone/PS3). Personally, I think it is absolutely brain-dead of Sony to not hire him. Honestly, would have been a lot cheaper, and it would have kept the homebrew off the internet.
    
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I hope that a 21 year engineering genius goes to prison because Sony isn't making enough money!!1!11shift+1

Seriously, look up what GeoHotz has done over his lifetime. I doubt anybody here can match his track record (and I'm talking about things he's done that have nothing to do with hacking the iPhone/PS3). Personally, I think it is absolutely brain-dead of Sony to not hire him. Honestly, would have been a lot cheaper, and it would have kept the homebrew off the internet.
Not really, he released the homebrew at the same time that he offered Sony the opportunity to hire him. I've mentioned that THAT'S his most stupid move; how could he expect a job offer from Sony after already releasing his hack? That's not the way things work. Companies typically hire professionals to find security holes and report them directly to their developers, with non-disclosure agreements in their contracts. Pretty useless to hire someone that just revealed your security hole to the entire world before coming to you.

Once he broke the PS3's security, he should have called Sony up, asked to speak to someone about a serious security issue and THEN maybe scheduled a board meeting with them. He'd have a very well paying job, no legal issues, and Sony would be very happy with a still "unhackable" PS3.
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lol @ sony
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I have mixed feelings about the hacked firmware for the PS3. I bought my PS3 partly because it had the other OS option and the possibility of home brew; however the group that would use this custom firmware for piracy greatly out numbers the people who would be installing or creating home brew.

I have hacked my PSP, Wii, and Xbox all to just revert them to what they were. So I am in no way against being able to do what you want with your own hardware and even the software/firmware that is provided on any electronics given to you. GeoHot was ethically wrong to release this security information publicly. I have no problem with him searching and finding a new way to support home brew after the removal of the other OS feature, he should be publicly aware that the majority of people that want this information are interested in play pirated games.

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Once he broke the PS3's security, he should have called Sony up, asked to speak to someone about a serious security issue and THEN maybe scheduled a board meeting with them. He'd have a very well paying job, no legal issues, and Sony would be very happy with a still "unhackable" PS3.
I completely agree with you. Don't mind that he enjoys reverse engineering any devices and I can't say that he isn't smart. Yet I can't say that he could be trusted either.
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Surprized it took that long, could have been minutes.
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Surprized it took that long, could have been minutes.
3.56 isn't hacked. 3.55 with homebrew or 3.56 with PSN.
Edited by Zinxe - 1/28/11 at 10:50am
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Haha. Right on.
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3.56 isn't hacked. 3.55 with homebrew or 3.56 with PSN.
Well, that would make sense if people actually read and not just come in here and say "lulz@sony."

Nubs, I swear...
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