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Hi, i really don't know where to post this so here it goes.

I used to have:

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0Ghz
Asus P5QL Pro
Kingston 2x1024 Dual DDR2 1066
Asus GTX 460 TOP Direct CU 1Gb GDDR5
Samsung F3 1Tb
Antec Truepower 750w
Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit

No overclocks (only changed the frequency of the memory in the BIOS to 1066 cuz it showed 800) and in 3DMark Vantage it toped at P17100 +/-

Now i've changed to

Intel I5 2500K 3.30Ghz
Asus P8P67
GSkill 2x2048Mb DDR3 PC3-12800 (1600) CL9 RipJaws X

Asus GTX 460 TOP Direct CU 1Gb GDDR5
Samsung F3 1Tb
Antec Truepower 750w
Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit

and in 3DMark Vantage it toped at P18500+/-.

Is it ok, only ~1500 points increase?

I havent changed a thing in the Bios, don't know if it affects but i guess the CPU is downclocking, in CPUZ it shows Core Speed at ~1600, and if it goes up when in Vantage.

Don't know if its that or something else, or if its supposed to have only 1500 points increased from that E8400.

So in Games will i have +/- the same performance as with my old system

[EDIT]
Thank you very much for your help, just 2 more things:

Should i go 64 or 32 bit win 7 ultimate?

and

Quote:
Originally Posted by nist7 View Post
Yup. You'll have about the same performance in games practically speaking. There will definitely be a FPS bump but not enough to be noticeable, IMO. Now just go upgrade to a 570/6950 and you'll definitely see big improvement.
Wont i notice performance boost in World of Warcraft?
Since every1's saying that wow is really cpu based even more than GPU.
Edited by Riitz - 1/28/11 at 9:03am
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What 3dmark version are you using? Also you have to remember that 3dmark is testing your graphics card more than anything, and since your old processor wasn't really the limiting factor to your GPU you can't really expect a large increase.

Also the reason that it is down clocking is because there is nothing stressing it, so it goes into a reduced power mode to save electricity.
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CPUz shows 1600 when your system is idle, vantage stresses it so it goes back up. What's your old cpu score vs new cpu score? A large part of vantage is based on your GPU and that hasn't changed.
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So in Games will i have +/- the same performance as with my old system
Yup. You'll have about the same performance in games practically speaking. There will definitely be a FPS bump but not enough to be noticeable, IMO. Now just go upgrade to a 570/6950 and you'll definitely see big improvement.
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Thank you very much for your help, just 2 more things, should i go 64 or 32 bit win 7 ultimate?

and

Quote:
Originally Posted by nist7 View Post
Yup. You'll have about the same performance in games practically speaking. There will definitely be a FPS bump but not enough to be noticeable, IMO. Now just go upgrade to a 570/6950 and you'll definitely see big improvement.
Wont i notice performance boost in World of Warcraft?
Since every1's saying that wow is really cpu based even more than GPU.
Edited by Riitz - 1/28/11 at 7:15am
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Thank you very much for your help, just 2 more things, should i go 64 or 32 bit win 7 ultimate?

and



Wont i notice performance boost in World of Warcraft?
Since every1's saying that wow is really cpu based even more than GPU.
Definitely go for 64 bit. There's really no reason to go 32bit and limit yourself in the RAM department. 4GB, 6GB and 8GB RAM are common and not too expensive these days.

Also, yes the i5 2500K should definitely help out with World of Warcraft:


http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/t...2100-tested/20
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Thank you very much, i had no time to test it in wow yet, but i was really dissaponted after seeing the low improvement i got in 3dmark.

Will test it as soon as i get home.
Thank you very much.
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Thank you very much, i had no time to test it in wow yet, but i was really dissaponted after seeing the low improvement i got in 3dmark.

Will test it as soon as i get home.
Thank you very much.
Hey man don't get dismayed by benchmarks. You play games, not benchmarks. If the programs and games run better and faster, then that's all there is to it.

Of course benchmarks are still important because they're a good standard measure for others who have similar setup to yours and can help you detect if you have any defective settings/hardware/etc. or any bottleneck if your bench is significantly lower.
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post #9 of 9
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Just tested wow, and i've got a great boost in FPS's +/- twice as much as i had, really great .

Now i'm having an issue, don't know if its caused by the downclocking thing, or some other thing but,i can't find it in the Bios, disabled EPU and Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology in Power management, i thought it was one of those things that was causing the idle downclock to save power, but when i log on windows, i'm still getting the core speed downclocked like this


I know that when i start anything that needs more juice it overclocks it self but im getting this stuff when dragging windows etc, so i really want it always at normal speed to see if thats whats causing this.





[EDIT] Just loaded BIOS defaults, read somewhere that i shouldn't disable Intel Speedstep since the Sandybridge performance is based on the turbo boost thats dependant of the SpeedStep, and that it is not possible to not to get the CPU underclocked when in idle using an Asus mobo!

So if this is true, can someone tell me how do i get rid of those windows draging "skidmarks", looks like i'm using a Pentium 2 or something like that when doing trivial stuff in windows. Is this normal?

The thing is that when underclocked in idle @ 1.6 i open a few windows and drag arround 1 in a second the multiplier shoots up and i get boosted to 3.3 3.4 3.5, but i'm still getting the "skidmarks"




EDIT
This only happens with CPUZ open -.-".... so, closed it and its Fixed.
Edited by Riitz - 1/29/11 at 5:36am
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