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post #11 of 22
get a 1055T!!!! My X6 1055T is running at a full 4.0GHz overclock with my Northbridge at 3.0GHz.... Speed difference with the massive overclock is like WOW!
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post #12 of 22
No real difference in performance between the two. x4 will actually beat x6 ever so slightly in most games. When the x4 becomes obsolete the x6 will also be a pretty useless gaming chip at that point IMHO.

955 overclocked to 4ghz will perform as well as any other Phenom chip above it. Just a waste of money to spend any more money on a dying platform. 955 + 60gb SSD will wipe the floor with 1090t + HDD, for about the same price.

If i had your budget, i would personally go with i7 920/930, SSD, some decent ram to help with overclocking and as much GPU power as possible (580 as an example).
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Overclocking the 1055T is pretty easy, depending on the motherboard's BIOS. I took mine from 2.8 to 3.5 in literally 2 hours with testing between steps... and it was my first overclock EVER. Did a little more reading and once I fix the flaws in my cooling system, I'll be ready to push it to 4.0 like I wanted in the first place. As long as you get a decent motherboard you'll find it fairly easy to overclock to where mine's at, with a little more effort needed to push higher.

That being said, I agree with most of the sentiment here. I noticed no game I've played so far (except Supreme Commander) has used more than 2 cores. I'm sure multicore support will be increasing in the near future, but unsure how far they'll be going before the x6 is completely obsolete. It's a bit of a gamble, imo. I like my 6 cores, and they help a lot with random side projects and multitasking, but they really don't do themselves justice in games. SSD + x4 will probably be the best bang for your buck (I know I love my SSD) and you can easily build a rig around that for well under $1k, leaving you some extra dough to play around with.
post #14 of 22
For a $1500 budget, don't put money into an AMD set up. Go for a Intel Sandy Bridge config...they're far faster than anything AMD has to offer.
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And as for overclocking, a Sandy Bridge chip is easier than an AMD thuban/denab. It really is silly to build a gaming rig with anything other than a sandy bridge K series CPU right now.
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Im running a X4 965 BE, has all the power it needs for all games at stock CPU speeds, can easily up the clock, highest so far is 4.1ghz, at the time I got it the X6s had only just come out.

I really depends if you are going for max processing power and overkill, or if you want to go for a cheaper option which is fine now, and has loads of extra head room for improvement for many years.
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post #17 of 22
if you're going to go the AMD route for gaming, just get a 965BE, a good overclocking motherboard and overclock. I'll post a good build that'll last awhile in a bit. $1350.00

Only item I cut off from the picture was the $17 dvd burner, and I didn't put in an actual hard drive from the looks of it. Samsung F3 or WD Caviar Black are nice choices. Just use the SSD for your OS install and put everything else on the actual hard drive

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And as for overclocking, a Sandy Bridge chip is easier than an AMD thuban/denab. It really is silly to build a gaming rig with anything other than a sandy bridge K series CPU right now.
What if you need more than 4 cores? Or can't afford a 2600K? X4 955BEs go for like $130 while SB 2600Ks go for like $330. Pretty major price difference, and you can grab a 1090T from NewEgg for $230, $100.00 cheaper and 2 more cores. Hyperthreading only yeilds like 20% more performance one a quad, 2 more cores yeilds a 50% performance gain. Do the math.

In all respects, the 2600K DOES own the 955 BE. It OC's better, performs better in most apps, and stuff like that. If you only game, though, just grab a cheap 955 BE and take it to 4GHZ. At the time of writing this, NO game can bottleneck an X4 Phenom II @ 4GHZ. Period. If you'd like to last a little longer, grab a 1090T, but it won't be used past 60% gaming (assuming you run 1 game at once and don't do crazy stuff in Garry's Mod) until games start to fully utilize 6 core processors.
    
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It's all about the budget, and the price difference. If an x6 is say, $30 more, it would be worth while. But if it is a few hundred, don't bother. You want the best bang for the dollar, and most applications these days will only be using the first two cores heavily.

People tout the Intel stuff, but for the money, the cost per unit of speed, Intel loses. This, especially when they saddled the promise of Sandy Bridge onto their obsolete and ancient i5 and i7 products, which really need to be retired along with their pathetic Atom processors that don't make the grade when it comes to modern OSes and applications.
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Atom processors that don't make the grade when it comes to modern OSes and applications.
Hmm? Atom is a cheap netbook solution, not a desktop processor. I am using Google's CR-48 netbook to type this, which uses a 1.66GHZ Atom with Hyperthreading, 2GB RAM, and a 16GB SSD. It's perfect for Chrome or Ubuntu and runs flash games and Hulu very smoothly.
    
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