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First, my carrier is T-Mobile. And I use an ancient Samsung flip phone (Samsung T219)



Also, excuse my lack of knowledge, but some phones are only limited to a certain carrier right? Like iPhone is AT&T, and HTC EVO is Sprint, and Motorola Droid is Verizon. And I know you can probably jailbreak all those to be used with any carrier (I think?) but I'm not gonna do that and it's prolly uber expensive to buy the phone stand-alone.

So looking at what T Mobile has to offer, I'm looking at the myTouch 4G (aka HTC Glacier?) and the G2 and the Motorola DEFY.

I actually don't care about web, just need a better phone that has keyboard (or touchscreen keyboard) cause I'm using text alot more and it is a HUGE PITA to text on a tiny little flip phone.

Or maybe those are too high end for me if I'm just using phone for talking and texting? (no data plan, just looking to upgrade to unlimited texting)
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You want a smartphone, but don't want a data plan.

Unless you buy the phone outright and pay full price ($500 or more bucks) then you can't do this. All smartphones are binded with contracts that include minutes and data plan.

I have an HD2 with android on T-Mobile. If you want to stay out of contract, and not pay for data plan, then I recommend finding one of those cheap used on Ebay and then PM'ing me and I'll show you how to put Android on it.

If you DO decide to get a contract upgrade and get a data plan, I recommend the Nexus S, which is sold for T-Mobile, exclusively by Best Buy.

It's the ACTUAL GOOGLE PHONE, and it gets all the updates first, before any other phone.

It's made by Samsung, it's got a Super AMOLED screen, and it's fast as lightning with it's 4.0" screen.


As for phones being locked to carriers, for the most part yes. Verizon and Sprint are CDMA (a type of technology) and you cannot change carriers.

AT&T and T-Mobile are GSM, and you can switch between phones easily by moving a little chip in the phone. But more often than not, the data doesn't work correctly because they use different methods for sending high speed internet (HDSPA+ and 3G).



Edited by FriedSushi87 - 1/28/11 at 12:31pm
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Just upgraded today from a Nexus One to a Nexus S and I'm really liking the Nexus S so far.
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Ah, I see. Thanks alot for the information.

I'll have to talk to the mom to see about upgrading to text and/or data. T-mobile website shows family plan (what we have currently) for $100/month for 750min/text/200MB and $80/month for 750min/text/no data.

I think I might just upgrade to to text. So if I want to get a used HD2 and put Android on it, how do I go about using it with the new plan that has text? Just moving SIM card from my flip phone over?

edit: that HTC HD2 looks bad ass but it sseems like an older phone though? How reliable/safe is it to buy used smartphones? Just looked on my local CL and see a few HTC HD2s from $150-$200

Gonna go to the local t mobile store and see what's up with the plan and what phones they got. Hopefully gonna join the cool kids club with them fancy big smartphones. hehe
Edited by nist7 - 1/28/11 at 12:56pm
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At this time, go for the Samsung Nexus S or HTC Google G2. Very capable phones and sporting the vanilla versions of Android. The HTC HD2 may load Android as a second OS, but the process is complicated and requires some prior knowledge of flashing firmware. If I were you, I won't get it.
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Ah, I see. Thanks alot for the information.

I'll have to talk to the mom to see about upgrading to text and/or data. T-mobile website shows family plan (what we have currently) for $100/month for 750min/text/200MB and $80/month for 750min/text/no data.

I think I might just upgrade to to text. So if I want to get a used HD2 and put Android on it, how do I go about using it with the new plan that has text? Just moving SIM card from my flip phone over?

edit: that HTC HD2 looks bad ass but it sseems like an older phone though? How reliable/safe is it to buy used smartphones? Just looked on my local CL and see a few HTC HD2s from $150-$200

Gonna go to the local t mobile store and see what's up with the plan and what phones they got. Hopefully gonna join the cool kids club with them fancy big smartphones. hehe
Buying a used phone is about as safe as buying anything else used. I got my G1 used a few years back and I never had a problem with it. Also, the HD2 is an older phone (but still, I promise you it'll perform faster or just as fast as some of the newer phones. I'm not even joking, you can over-clock this thing and it performs better than ANYTHING) so it's probably allot cheaper, even if you were to buy it out of contract, completely new.

Just open up the back of your phone, take out the SIM card and put it in the back of your new phone. Phone, voicemail, text messages, everything will work without any setup.

Don't believe what this guy says, it's not too difficult. It used to be, maybe a year ago when they first started hacking the device. Now it's 100%.

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At this time, go for the Samsung Nexus S or HTC Google G2. Very capable phones and sporting the vanilla versions of Android. The HTC HD2 may load Android as a second OS, but the process is complicated and requires some prior knowledge of flashing firmware. If I were you, I won't get it.
Incorrect. You can flash Android as a primary OS. I just did it to mine. It's fast, and everything works. It's not too complicated, and I can create a quick easy guide, if need be. Basically, just connect the device to your computer with a 50% charged battery or greater, and run a few EXE's that flash your ROM. And that's it!
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Incorrect. You can flash Android as a primary OS. I just did it to mine. It's fast, and everything works. It's not too complicated, and I can create a quick easy guide, if need be. Basically, just connect the device to your computer with a 50% charged battery or greater, and run a few EXE's that flash your ROM. And that's it!
Oh, I see. One of those one-click rooting/flashing programs, I guess? I didn't recommend the HD2 to the OP since I don't think he would even bother having to do something extra to get Android working. In any case, he should be mindful of following the procedures if ever he decides on getting the HD2. Very capable with the ability to be installed with multiple operating systems.
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Oh, I see. One of those one-click rooting/flashing programs, I guess? I didn't recommend the HD2 to the OP since I don't think he would even bother having to do something extra to get Android working. In any case, he should be mindful of following the procedures if ever he decides on getting the HD2. Very capable with the ability to be installed with multiple operating systems.
Right now, there are dozens, even hundreds of ROMS you can flash, some of the DUAL BOOTED for the following OS's:

Windows Mobile 6.5
Windows Phone 7
Android 1.5-2.3 (soon 2.4 Honeycomb too!)
Ubuntu
Meego (Mobile Linux os)

It's a multi-step process to get a stock HD2 running with android on NAND.

1) Install HSPL (this is done by connecting phone via USB and running an EXE)

2) Install RADIO UPDATE (this is done by connecting phone via USB and running an EXE)

3) Install MAGLDR (this is done by connecting phone via USB and running an EXE)


****OPTIONAL STEP 4******** (Done by loading files from SD card through MAGLDR program installed during step 3)
4) Install ClockWorkMod - This basically allows you to update ROM's that you install without Re-flashing the entire ROM. Very handy.
Instructions:
Copy "initrd.gz and zImage" onto root of SD card. Copy your ANDROIDROM.ZIP file onto root of SD card. You can do this via SD card, or through phone hooked up via USB in MAGLDR by selecting USB STORAGE option.

Boot into MAGLDR by holding the POWER button while the device starts up.
Select "Boot AD SD" from MAGLDR menu. This loads ClockWorkMod.

From here, you select the *.ZIP file of your Android ROM that is on the ROOT of your SD card, and it'll install it for you.

Device restarts, BAM, you have Android on your phone.

*********If you skipped step 3,***********

4) Install Android ROM (this is done by connecting phone via USB and running an EXE while phone is in MAGLDR mode.)
Device restarts, BAM, you have Android on your phone.

I'll update this with links to the EXE's needed, but for now, this should be a good guide/idea of how much work goes into HD2>Android NAND. It can all honestly be done in less than 35 minutes.
Edited by FriedSushi87 - 1/28/11 at 2:29pm
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Back in my days man, flashing a custom ROM to my Moto Cliq is an ADB adventure, with doing stuff manually and having to do multiple reboots on recovery. Nice to see HD2 getting its stuff working much more efficiently.
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Back in my days man, flashing a custom ROM to my Moto Cliq is an ADB adventure, with doing stuff manually and having to do multiple reboots on recovery. Nice to see HD2 getting its stuff working much more efficiently.
That was the early builds are normally composed of. So it's a nice skill to have if you want to be one of the first to test out something new.
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