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Hey I have a biosstar a700e with a phenom x3 2.1ghz. I overclocked the cpu to 2.4, but notice that the ram speed went from 1066 to 1200. When it is at 1200 kept getting error about unable to read memory when i played a game. I set it in the bios for 800, but how can I make it back to 1066? Did not really find anything in the bios that would change it. only thing really is pick ddr 400 ,600 ,800, 1066.
Also i notice the max voltage in bios has 1.2 volts for the cpu default it 1.1. I pretty much had to set it to 1.2 to get it to 2.4, maybe i can getting higher but didnt try yet. Any way to make the voltage higher than 1.2? also the mobo has the thermal heat of 95 watts is that the reason why i cant go past 1.2 volts on cpu? cpu is 65 watts
thxs
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Hey I have a biosstar a700e with a phenom x3 2.1ghz. I overclocked the cpu to 2.4, but notice that the ram speed went from 1066 to 1200. When it is at 1200 kept getting error about unable to read memory when i played a game. I set it in the bios for 800, but how can I make it back to 1066? Did not really find anything in the bios that would change it. only thing really is pick ddr 400 ,600 ,800, 1066.
Also i notice the max voltage in bios has 1.2 volts for the cpu default it 1.1. I pretty much had to set it to 1.2 to get it to 2.4, maybe i can getting higher but didnt try yet. Any way to make the voltage higher than 1.2? also the mobo has the thermal heat of 95 watts is that the reason why i cant go past 1.2 volts on cpu? cpu is 65 watts
thxs
To change the ram back there should be a auto button or something like that and that is if thats stock if its not then when u OC ur FSB it also OC's ur ram so lower ur FSB

And the voltages, u may need to do a bios update or a new board
Hope this helps
Edited by AMDGamer101 - 1/28/11 at 3:28pm
    
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ok thxs for the info.
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A Bios update is a great idea, as that might give you more options in the BIOS.

Also, sometimes BIOS's have more than one way to increase the Voltage for the CPU. Sometimes you adjust the voltage directly, and other times you adjust the voltage over what the vcore is set at (like if you were at 1.2v, and the over voltage setting was at .05, the actual voltage would be 1.25v).

The easiest way to fix this is just to lower the memory speeds setting in the BIOS (sometimes called a ram divider). It will likely be set at DDR1066, and you should lower it to the next lowest step (which would be the DDR800 that you have listed there), that should lower the ram speed and give you some more overhead room.

If you need more direction than that, I would suggest checking out the guide in my sig.

Good luck, and welcome to OCN.
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To alter your RAM speed, should be the DRAM ratio. It'll be like 1:16 or something, lower to the next one down to lower the frequency of the RAM.

Also keep an eye on your HT and Northbridge Speeds with CPU-Z/BIOS (when you OC, sometimes you need to hit Save & Exit, then go straight back into BIOS to see new frequencies).
You wanna leave HyperTransport as near to 1800-1900Mhz as possible, your NorthBridge clocks should be fine at that speed though, maybe a tad lower if you're getting a bit hot.
HT-Ref for your HyperTransport in BIOS, it'll be a Multiplier at X9, lower it to X8 to keep the frequency around 1800Mhz.

I.E. 233Mhz Bus Speed, with the fixed 10.5 Multi gives you 2447Mhz Core Clock.
HT-Ref Multi of X8 will give you 1864Mhz HT Clock.

I ran 2.5Ghz (2520Mhz) on my 8450 (What I assume you also have) at 1.264v 24/7.

Ran it higher, I think 2.6/7 was the max I went, I had a real crappy case and a Scythe Samurai-Z at the time, and I didn't wanna push it.
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post #6 of 10
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cool thxs for the info, was wondering what the over voltage does. Also reading that acc will help with oc so just turned it on.
Also for the DRAM ratio my is 1:2 when it was at 1066 was like 6:8 or something. How can I change it? Dont see anywhere in the bios, also nothing in amd overdrive.
thanks
Edited by leone - 1/28/11 at 7:22pm
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cool thxs for the info, was wondering what the over voltage does. Also reading that acc will help with oc so just turned it on.
Also for the DRAM ratio my is 1:2 when it was at 1066 was like 6:8 or something. How can I change it? Dont see anywhere in the bios, also nothing in amd overdrive.
thanks
Is there not an FSB/DRAM Ratio bit in your bios that you can change by hitting enter and using a drop-down list, or using +/- or Page Up/Page Down?
I've always OC'd by BIOS, never used AOD.

Mine looks like this:-



(Pic was when I very first got this Mobo, old TV too, names of things have changed since, but should still be something similar for yours?)
 
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post #8 of 10
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yeah nothing only have a section where i can set all these timing and another section where i can enable stuff for the ram. my bios looks different also Ht Multiplier is not in the bios only shows up in AMD overdrive. heres a picture of where i do all the oc
post #9 of 10
Your HT Multiplier and the likes should be in the Hyper Transport Configuration section you have there in that list (highlight and hit enter to access).

Also, your DRAM Ratio should be in Memory Configuration.

Give them area's a little explore and see if they show anything?

If it's not, then I apologise for asking you to check something you already have.
Otherwise you may need the latest version of your Motherboard's BIOS, and hope it's made some changes.
But those area's are the first places I'd look for what you need.
 
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hey in the Hyper Transport Configuration theres only two things, I can set it to auto 1600 1400.... is that the multiplyer? than this other option but no idea wht it does.
Same for mem config nothing just some settings like ecc mode thxs for the help ill update the bios than

dam did bios update, nothing new o well

Is there a difference in performance from running ram at 924 vs 1066? well i guess i can oc cpu more than it will be at 1066 but any idea what the max safe volt for phenom x3 8450e ? Can't find any info on it or anyone oc it. right now i have it at 1.2 volt and pretty much max stable is 2.45. was reading how the phenoms max safe is 1.55 volts but this cpu is like the e edition so idk if its same for this.
thanks
Edited by leone - 1/29/11 at 10:30am
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