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For checkinstall you configure/make but then run checkinstall -D/S/R (Deb/Slack/RPM) and that's it. That's the only program I use. =P
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Thanks for the replies. I feel bad since I'm not getting most of it.

I guess I was hoping that I wouldn't have to sit there and hit "y" for every single file and then empty folder when I need to remove the untared source files.

Now, you guys mentioned making packages out of the untared source files; does this mean that you would be having the package manager take over the install if you ran the packages instead? So if I make a package like an rpm out of the kernel then the package manager would take care of the install? I'm a bit nervous about doing a kernel install by myself right now.
sorry i misunderstood your original question about rm -r and rmdir, for whatever reason, your rm command is prolly aliased to do rm -i + user set switch, just do this command instead:

rm -rf

(be careful as this can remove things not intended )

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Alright I feel like I'm risking a dunce cap with this but:

I need to still compile, make, install before creating a package out of the files right? Or can I make the rpm first?
you will want to do:

make

make install DESTDIR=/tmp/software_name

then build the RPM out of the files and folders that are created in /tmp/software_name.

Been a long time since i created a RPM, but the last time i tried it was PITA.
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In case you don't know, rookie1337, the "r" option in "rm -rf" stands for "recursive". It gets everything under whatever "-f" designates.
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and the -f stands for "fun" or "force"....
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Thanks guys. I had seen rm -rf before but for the life of me couldn't remember it and didn't know what it truly meant.

@transhour and enorbet: I'm all about the speed and "ease" of something so the question is whether there is a point to making packages for myself or if just untaring, making, and then removing the untared things is more worthwhile? Also, if I'm specifying the directory to do the "rm -rf" in and know that it has nothing I need I shouldn't worry right? Don't want to invite my Murphy's Law powers into this.

@transhour: LOL. "fun" would be humorous to see writing in a man or readme.
     
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I use both methods be prefer making packages because that program/app then enters the database and is easier to track, upgrade or uninstall. I used "checkinstall" for years until it fell behind and when it caught up it was no longer completely compatible with Slackware so I mourned it's loss. Slackpack is almost a replacement but not quite yet. My affection for SlackBuilds is a whirlwind romance though so it's all good.
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i'm with enorbet, depends really in what mood i'm in.

typically i will make a script that can repeat the process at a later date if a new version comes out or if i've reinstalled and didn't keep the package i created originally.

i have a spare 750 gig harddrive filled with scripts and packages i've created, but i rarely keep untared source files around, as the space can be ridiculously large.
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and the -f stands for "fun" or "force"....
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@transhour: Yeah, openoffice3.2 was something like a 300 plus MB folder untared. Though with how little I have on my netbook's 160GB HDD that seemed like nothing. It still bothered me having it there. "rm -rf and the name of the untared folder" and <poof> it was gone without a problem and fast. I honestly thought I had screwed up until I "ls" in the containing folder and noticed it was gone. Guess you guys were right about rmdir being made useless.

So things currently on my list for the summer of "Linux education":

Using Slackware and maybe go into Gentoo(probably not Gentoo but it's a dream).

Learn to script and make packages from source.

Possibly try to build through SUSE my own distro or hacking MeeGo to my liking (can't find one for my netbook still).


So, that gets me wondering. How do I go about uninstalling the packages/programs I installed through sources? I'm looking for that but I got a few different answers (not sure if they're even right). I'm not in a position to screw up my netbook so I'm hoping you guys know the safest method.

Also, if I make an rpm in one distro it will only work in that distro right? That's why there are different ones for Fedora and openSUSE right?

Still having a hell of time figuring out why conky's source build won't work. Got to read the readme again and hope I missed something. This whole missing gcc, cc, and g++ error is messing with my head. And finally, if I install conky will it be a battery drainer? It has a refresh rate of 1s by default right? Should I avoid using it on my netbook?

Off topic: I'm just wondering how Intel can possibly consider releasing MeeGo at this point considering how little they've put into it. I reinstalled it hoping to get to the latest update but for some reason it refuses to update at all. Hence why I asked about getting a kernel update myself. I guess no one uses netbooks anymore and that's the reason it feels like Linux has abandoned them.
     
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Greetz
I've read that you like KDE. Good. Discover a great feature in KPackageKit namely the one that lists all your installed packages along with their associated installed file list with complete path. It also lists any orphaned files that didn't "link up" or are conflicted say from duplication. So if you get a message saying that "foo" is missing, it either is indeed missing or you lack either a $PATH inclusion for that application for that user, or you failed to utilize some required option in "./configure". This can be as simple as $PREFIX (where you prefer the app resides) or a library location. For example if an app requires java, there are different java versions and implementations and different distros put them in different locations, In rare cases, you may have to tell the compiler where to find it.

Also, regarding Office.... Check out LibreOffice . Ig you're interested SlackBuilds make the install trivial.
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