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typically to remove an application you installed from source, without making a package, there is a good chance cd your way back into its folder, and type the command:

make uninstall

and it should remove itself, not all source contains this, that is why it is always a good idea to build a package, cause not all sources contain that option.

as for "rpm" compatibility, for the most part they should be cross compatible, that is the entire point of "rpm" and "deb", and the other packages. about the only thing i can potentially see conflicts on is the fact they could have dependencies named differently in their repos.

i'm not really familar with the RPM package, i know they are a pita to build, that is one of the reasons why i was a debian user for a long time, even tho i had liked fedora and opensuse better, i was always having problems building rpm packages, or even finding packages for fedora
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@enorbet: I love KDE. It's just that for my netbook I can't install openSUSE or Slackware anymore since my only free optical drive is in my sig rig. And the big problem with suse was low battery life and slow openoffice performance which then lead to me breaking openSUSE somehow when I removed openoffice. But I might move to libre if for any reason openoffice upsets me on MeeGo. Strangely its damn fast on MeeGo after doing the source install.

@transhour: Yeah, MeeGo works with rpms but the last I read they were the Fedora ones. I'm thinking of trying out the opensuse ones since I really want to update chromium. But I feel the same way on finding them. I have only two databases but they seem really outdated for rpms besides opensuse's database.

But you both have given me something to look forward to trying out when I don't have to worry about borking the netbook. Thanks.
     
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@enorbet: I love KDE. It's just that for my netbook I can't install openSUSE or Slackware anymore since my only free optical drive is in my sig rig. And the big problem with suse was low battery life and slow openoffice performance which then lead to me breaking openSUSE somehow when I removed openoffice. But I might move to libre if for any reason openoffice upsets me on MeeGo. Strangely its damn fast on MeeGo after doing the source install.
Just for your consideration Slackware-Current bootable iso is 1.8GB from Alien Bob's ultra fast server mirror....fits nicely on a 2G USB stick.
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Just for your consideration Slackware-Current bootable iso is 1.8GB from Alien Bob's ultra fast server mirror....fits nicely on a 2G USB stick.
Damn you Memorex 1GB flash drive for being too small!

The only other thing that was holding me off from Slackware on the netbook was getting the annoyingly temperamental Ralink (I think not certain anymore) wifi card working. Though it does sound like something worth learning how to fix this summer so I might just add it to the list. I got unlucky with my netbook because it was one that Asus discontinued quickly and doesn't have a dedicated page to which makes it a pain to figure out the exact parts in it.
     
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Revive for something I'm sure I should have read somewhere but here it is:

When a new kernel (stable) gets released should you update to it or are there no major concerns for sticking with an old one?
     
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Revive for something I'm sure I should have read somewhere but here it is:

When a new kernel (stable) gets released should you update to it or are there no major concerns for sticking with an old one?
I update, you don't really have to unless there is a new feature geared towards our hardware. Generally there are new tweaks/enhancements though. I build my own, so far the 2.6.38-rc3 has been very promising.
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Greetz
In the past I have only upgraded kernels when I needed new hardware support unavailable in the old one. Maybe I am jumping at shadows but recently I have updated in reparation for major changes in Xorg and KDE centered around HAL being replaced by udev. I do have one box that is still using a 2.4.26 kernel and Slackware v10.2 because "if it ain;t broke...." but it is an exception only because of how much effort is invested in it. Often my tendency to tweak wins out. It's all good.
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1) why does rmdir exist if it only works on empty directories (I'm calling them folders from here on out)? (see dumb question)
rmdir does what it says, it removes directories. rm -rf will also remove a directory and everything in it.

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2) Is there a faster/easier way than "rm -r" to clean out folders? Or is there another command that can do the same thing?
If, by "clean out" folders you mean to delete everything in them, then it is the best way.

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3) So after I untar things and install from the untared folder is there any reason to keep it? Aren't the files that will be used by the program going to be in /etc or drawn from /lib, /bin or similar now?
First of all, why are you trying to install stuff from source code? A tarball is usually the raw source code which must first be compiled before installation. You should not have to do this. What distro are you using?

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4) Finally, how difficult is it to get, install, and then use a kernel on my own without having a packagemanager do that for me?
It will be difficult for a newb. But, again, why do you want to do this?
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he meant by installing from source tarball, he meant once it is extracted and compiled, when you run make install, do you need to keep the source folder for any reason, which we explained in length it is best to build packages from compiled source so the package manager can keep track of it, so you can get rid of the source folder.
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@thiussat: The reason I was asking and having to do those things was because I'm using (beta testing) MeeGo on my netbook. And sadly, while certain aspects have impressed me about it, others have left me rather puzzled to hear that they are considering launching it on several (lesser known brands) tablets and such as a finished and ready to go project.

Like transhour mentioned we covered the whole rmdir being obsolete for the use I intended by rm-rf. And the install from tarballs comes from both the desire to learn a little bit and because it was necessary since MeeGo's repos are either empty or the 1.0 and 1.1 images have broken repos lists (which doesn't make sense since they worked earlier) or I've Murphy's Lawed another distro again. Either way I'm probably going to hold off on updating the kernel myself until the summer since my netbook is my school computer. I might however throw Audacious, Deadbeef, or Auqualung on there so I can play music since the version of Banshee that is built-in didn't come with mp3 or other "non free" format playback.

Currently sad though that I can't figure out how to install an updated 10.0 version of chromium on it though. The rpms from openSUSE didn't work and I'm not sure that Fedora's will either.
     
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