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I am currently in the process of choosing parts for a rackmount renderfarm with 2600k's, and on the top my my list I have the Asus P67 WS revolution because it is supposed to be reliable and it has excellent cooling which would be of great benefit for my type of configuration.

However, recently I have been reading a LOT of complaints about 1155 Asus motherboards having countless problems, from DOA to bad temp sensors regarding the P67 standard to Deluxe versions. I have not heard any complaints about my preferred choice so far, but it is making me doubt Asus as a whole regarding the 1155 lineup. I am a current owner of two Asus X58 systems, one having being based on a Deluxe v2 and the other a P6X58D and they are rock solid 24/7 under stress OC'd. I acknowledge that these are the first revisions of SB but many of the problems seem to be hardware related.

Motherboard cooling for the components is important, so that temperatures would not get out of hand even in a 10x4U rackmount configuration with the CPU being stressed 24/7 even OC'd (4.2 to 4.4ghz depending on ambient temps) with Noctua NH-D14/Megahalems. The 4U cases will have 3x120mm intakes and 2x80mm exhausts, and the server cabinet will have meshed front and back doors, partly meshed side doors and 6x120mm intakes on the bottom along with a 6x120mm top mounted exhausts. I am also planning on installing an air conditioning unit in summer, so temperatures should be acceptable with my performance expectations.

The rendering will be 100% CPU intensive not GPU related at all so to be honest I could not care less about PCI/multi GPU configurations, I just need a board that is very reliable, and stays cool while having a moderate overclock. Please feel free to post your suggestions.

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Wouldn't an 8/12 core opteron be a better choice for cpu crunching power? 4 way board + 4 magny cours 8 core chips = 1900...?
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Wouldn't an 8/12 core opteron be a better choice for cpu crunching power? 4 way board + 4 magny cours 8 core chips = 1900...?
I did look at those options, but according to my research the p67 platform is the way to go for my applications (Autodesk Maya and Vray). There are scaling issues when it comes to using more than 2 cpu's on a single board, for example one cpu would be designated for a portion of the render per picture, there are many instances when one cpu waits for the other to finish until it proceeds, this is just one "problem" on a hardware level and there are few 3d rendering programs that scale at a "cost effective" level when comparing the p67 platform. I have experienced this issue first hand.

The opterons are more suited for data centers compared to my needs when bang for buck comes into the picture. There are dual processor 12 core opterons that match the performance of two 5650's, but they are not cost effective. Realizing the scaling issues (For some reason they tend to be more of an issue on AMD platforms) and the cost effective point of view in terms of 3d rendering performance, the i7 970 would be the second best platform. Businesses love those dual/quad xeon/opteron because they are more reliable and have little maintenance etc but they cost waay more compared custom moderately overclocked systems.

I am sure there are people who very well disagree with my information, but cpu performance is relative to certain applications (How it is used). For example if scientific calculations are needed then the Opterons Imo would be a better choice. Now, I'm just stuck with choosing the right mainboard for the 1155 platform. Any suggestions?
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if you arent going to be using multiple graphics cards, then theres no reason to get the ws board. you would be paying for extra for a nf200 chip that would be useless for your setup.

from what i have read, gigabyte (for now) is the way go. the ud4 seems to be a great board. all the gigabyte boards have gotten great buyer reviews on newegg compared to the asus boards(bad bad reviews)

edit: also the asrock boards look promising. good reviews too.

im also looking to build a sandy bridge rig. but i plan to wait a bit longer. let the motherboard manufactuers get there stuff together. evga should be releasing boards in feb. from what i understand. i hope they dont let us down by releasing some overpriced hunk of junk.

so unless you need the new setup asap, i would let this platform/chipset mature a bit more before taking the plunge.
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if you arent going to be using multiple graphics cards, then theres no reason to get the ws board. you would be paying for extra for a nf200 chip that would be useless for your setup.

from what i have read, gigabyte (for now) is the way go. the ud4 seems to be a great board. all the gigabyte boards have gotten great buyer reviews on newegg compared to the asus boards(bad bad reviews)

edit: also the asrock boards look promising. good reviews too.
Thank you for bringing that up, I had the UD3P/R and UD4 next on my list, however the cooling looks like it is superior on the WS board even when it is up against the UD7. I wonder if the mofoset/chipset cooling on the ud3/ud4 will be enough for my server type environment?

Edit: Check this link out comparing power efficiency and north bridge temperatures with the WS board and the UD7 at 4.7ghz

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http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/3795/asus_p8p67_ws_revolution_intel_p67_express_motherboard/index12.html
There difference is actually pretty big on both, giving the WS the advantage. If the cooling and power consumption is worse on the UD3/4 compared to the UD7 which is more expensive than the WS, the gap would be even greater. I think the Asus board would be the better buy Imo. What do you think?
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Thank you for bringing that up, I had the UD3P/R and UD4 next on my list, however the cooling looks like it is superior on the WS board even when it is up against the UD7. I wonder if the mofoset/chipset cooling on the ud3/ud4 will be enough for my server type environment?
should be just fine. if, after you build the rig with a ud4, you dont like the temps you can always buy an aftermarket chipset heatsink which would still be cheaper then buying that asus board.

but honestly i think the heatsinks on the ud4 will be more than adequate.

also keep in mind the asus board has an extra heatsink to keep the nf200 cool. the ud4 board doesnt have an nf200 therefore has no need for that extra heatsink. this may create an illusion of the asus board having better cooling. both boards use heatpipes for the chipset heatsinks. so either way you go you will be ok.
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There should be plenty of flow in a rackmount especially in a 4U case. That's thick dude.
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cooling isnt as important as you make it out to be.

The only reason that WSrev has more heatsinks, is beacuase it needs to cool the Hot NF200 chip.

since the UD4/UD3 doesn't have NF200. it doesnt need as much heatsinks to cool it.

Another board to consider would be the MSI P67A-GD53, or if you only need 1 PCIe slot, P67-C45
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should be just fine. if, after you build the rig with a ud4, you dont like the temps you can always buy an aftermarket chipset heatsink which would still be cheaper then buying that asus board.

but honestly i think the heatsinks on the ud4 will be more than adequate.

also keep in mind the asus board has an extra heatsink to keep the nf200 cool. the ud4 board doesnt have an nf200 therefore has no need for that extra heatsink. this may create an illusion of the asus board having better cooling. both boards use heatpipes for the chipset heatsinks. so either way you go you will be ok.
You know, I have actually thought about that extra nf200 chip heat, but I don't know which of the three boards would be more reliable in the long run. If the only difference between the UD3P/UD4 is SLI, then the UD3P/R would be a better buy if the cooling, phase and all that is the same. I just checked and the UD3/4 only have realtek lan, this would mean that during rendering 3% of cpu power would be lost, so its a no go. Then, there is the UD5, but it is actually more expensive than the WS, and it also has the nf200 chip, with worse cooling results. Damn...

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cooling isnt as important as you make it out to be.

The only reason that WSrev has more heatsinks, is beacuase it needs to cool the Hot NF200 chip.

since the UD4/UD3 doesn't have NF200. it doesnt need as much heatsinks to cool it.

Another board to consider would be the MSI P67A-GD53, or if you only need 1 PCIe slot, P67-C45
Yeah, good point but they only have realtek lan ports, which will decrease my cpu performance by 3%, the UD5 has an intel lan port but it also has the NF200 chip, and the WS is cooler than the UD7, while being cheaper than the UD7.

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There should be plenty of flow in a rackmount especially in a 4U case. That's thick dude.
Hehe, yeah its 176mm high, just enough for a decent cooler 10 overclocked systems stacked on top of each other would need good airflow. In summer, it would be a BBQ if I didn't plan this right.
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You know, I have actually thought about that extra nf200 chip heat, but I don't know which of the three boards would be more reliable in the long run. If the only difference between the UD3P/UD4 is SLI, then the UD3P/R would be a better buy if the cooling, phase and all that is the same. I just checked and the UD3/4 only have realtek lan, this would mean that during rendering 3% of cpu power would be lost, so its a no go. Then, there is the UD5, but it is actually more expensive than the WS, and it also has the nf200 chip, with worse cooling results. Damn...
go with a low to mid end asus board. they should all have intel lan.

to be quite honest though, the heatsinks on the board dont matter. as long as there is some there they will be fine. but i know from experience that both asus and gigabyte use quality heatsinks on there boards.

but in your case, i think maybe asus would be the way to go because of the intel lan.

also, ud5 doesnt have nf200.

edit: check this board out too. it is a great value and has been getting fantastic reviews. although no intel lan, so youd have to buy a seperate nic card.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157217
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