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Want to enlighten us on something you know?

The WS Revolution was designed by the server and workstation teams
Ooh, you mean the team that designs the real 2P server boards from Asus? That is interesting... I'm still considering the WS, but I really don't need that NF200 chip.

Has anyone found any reviews other than tweaktown's that test the power consumption on the Asus P67 WS? On tweaktowns review they say that at stock speeds the WS consumes 234 watts, where as the UD7 consumes 263 both under full load.

The reason I am asking, is because there are heaps of P67 Motherboard reviews out there that state a ~160 watt usage for a 2600k system @ stock speeds. Could the NF200 really be using up 70 watt? I kind of find that hard to believe. It is a big deal for me because 70 watt x10 systems= 700 watt difference in power consumption, that's a lot.

Edit: For reference, Tweaktowns review

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Have you looked at the sabertooth p67? Just throwing it out there.
Yes I have, but to be honest It seems a little overpriced for what is being offered. The plastic cover only decreases temperatures by ~1-3C, and in some cases has no effect on temperatures. It's still an option though, also I think it has the intel lan.

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so if your lan is always at full 1Gb speed, it will use that much CPU.


If you use lan that much, you should invest in a dedicated lan card
I don't see the need to buy an extra card if the onboard intel solution does the job.
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Ooh, you mean the team that designs the real 2P server boards from Asus? That is interesting... I'm still considering the WS, but I really don't need that NF200 chip.

Has anyone found any reviews other than tweaktown's that test the power consumption on the Asus P67 WS? On tweaktowns review they say that at stock speeds the WS consumes 234 watts, where as the UD7 consumes 263 both under full load.

The reason I am asking, is because there are heaps of P67 Motherboard reviews out there that state a ~160 watt usage for a 2600k system @ stock speeds. Could the NF200 really be using up 70 watt? I kind of find that hard to believe. It is a big deal for me because 70 watt x10 systems= 700 watt difference in power consumption, that's a lot.

Edit: For reference, Tweaktowns review
are you shure all the reviews used the exact same CPU/video card/ram/hdds/fans/etc. ? that is probably the reason for such a large difference

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I don't see the need to buy an extra card if the onboard intel solution does the job.
because it would be even faster, use even less CPU resources, and be more reliable than any integrated lan
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are you shure all the reviews used the exact same CPU/video card/ram/hdds/fans/etc. ? that is probably the reason for such a large difference



because it would be even faster, use even less CPU resources, and be more reliable than any integrated lan
I just found a review stating that there is only a 10watt, and 3C MB temp difference between the UD7/UD4, so you are probably right.

It seems as though, as some have mentioned; without the NF200 chip a full blown heatpipe system is not needed.

How much is a decent'ish lan card these days? If I got a board without the intel lan, I would get a lan card for sure. I'm not sure if it's worth the cost if the intel one is reliable though.

Thanks for your advice.
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I just found a review stating that there is only a 10watt, and 3C MB temp difference between the UD7/UD4, so you are probably right.

It seems as though, as some have mentioned; without the NF200 chip a full blown heatpipe system is not needed.

How much is a decent'ish lan card these days? If I got a board without the intel lan, I would get a lan card for sure. I'm not sure if it's worth the cost if the intel one is reliable though.

Thanks for your advice.
i'm Not really that good with lan cards, but if you post in the network forum, you will probably get a lot of great suggestions.
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Because of the P67 recall issues, I may be forced to go for a different platform...Even if I went for high end motherboards with 4x sata 6gb ports (as they are unaffected), I would have to pay premium prices for the parts due to availability, plus the whole hassle would not be worth it...

I am once again planning to build a X58 renderfarm using i7 970's. Too bad, I would have cut down power consumption by a ~200 watts while giving me a little more performance.

However, I think 970 @ 4ghz being more stable than a 2600k @ 4.4ghz, it is a proven platform afterall. Its a shame I can't wait for bulldozer I have a schedule with my rendering...
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As a fellow 3d designer with a render farm, I thought you might be interested in these results: I ran cinebench 11.5 last night with the 2600K OC'd to 4.2, and it beat out an AMD 12 core, posting a 7.91 score (AMD 12 core posted a 7.85). My i7 950 posted a 4.56 and my i7 870 posted a 4.1 score. The Xeon 8core/16 thread CPU's post scores in the 11-11.5 range, so for a $330 chip with 4 cores/8 threads, that 7.9 score is DAMN impressive.

FYI, Intel chips have consistently outperformed AMD chips in rendering apps.
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As a fellow 3d designer with a render farm, I thought you might be interested in these results: I ran cinebench 11.5 last night with the 2600K OC'd to 4.2, and it beat out an AMD 12 core, posting a 7.91 score (AMD 12 core posted a 7.85). My i7 950 posted a 4.56 and my i7 870 posted a 4.1 score. The Xeon 8core/16 thread CPU's post scores in the 11-11.5 range, so for a $330 chip with 4 cores/8 threads, that 7.9 score is DAMN impressive.

FYI, Intel chips have consistently outperformed AMD chips in rendering apps.
Thank you for sharing your results with me, I appreciate it.

Indeed, Cinebench 11.5 is a great app for us 3D artists, its pretty much on the money as far as evaluating that perfect rendering peformance/ power consumption/ space ratio.

As far as dual processor 8core/16 threads are concerned, the i7 970 beats it according to my research. Even when comparing the e5620's, in dual mode they put out 160 watt while the 980/970 matches its power consumption. Also, you would be paying a premium for dual processor boards and compatible server mobo ram.

Cinebench 11.5
970/980 @ 4ghz= 10.2
dual 5620's @ stock= ~9.6 average

Power consumption pretty much the same, price difference per build ~200-250 Euro extra for the 5620x2 builds. When you are building these rigs 10x, there is quite a difference. Also adding a good cooler like the NH-D14 or silver arrow keeps the 6 core chip easily under 65C always, even when rendering for days (Ambient temp 19C).

Edit: My bad, I though you were referring to the dual e5620's as being better, clearly I miss understood your post.

I REALLY wish these DAMN boards didn't get a recall. Would have been a better buy.
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Just ran the Cinebench 11.5 on the 2600K at stock 3.4 ghz speed and it returned 6.6 pts.

Oh, and the dual Xeon's I was referring to with 11.5 pts were dual w5590's @ 3.3 ghz, not e5620's @ 2.4 ghz. Those 5590's run ~$1,200 a pop, which is why the 2600K's 4.2 ghz score of 2/3 the speed of a dual 5590 config is particularly impressive.
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Just ran the Cinebench 11.5 on the 2600K at stock 3.4 ghz speed and it returned 6.6 pts.

Oh, and the dual Xeon's I was referring to with 11.5 pts were dual w5590's @ 3.3 ghz, not e5620's @ 2.4 ghz. Those 5590's run ~$1,200 a pop, which is why the 2600K's 4.2 ghz score of 2/3 the speed of a dual 5590 config is particularly impressive.
I too do alot of 3D rendering (in Lightwave 9.6). I thought you might find this interesting. In a Tom's Hardware review of the 980x vs. dual Xeon setups they posted this:



http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...ep,2692-6.html

Every one of those setups cost double to quintuple what I've invested in my setup. Here's the kicker, see the rendering times ? (399, 443 and 1086)

Those are all measured in seconds, since the SPECapc suite does 8 or 9 different renders all using difficult features to render (AmbOCC, HDRI, GI, DOF, Hypervoxels, etc).

The system in my sig competes right up there coming in at a consistent 450-455 seconds.

And one other small note, during stress testing of my overclock, while prime was running I touched the DIMMs and the Mosfest/VRM heatsinks and they were cool to the touch. Not scientific at all, but it seems to me that all of the heat the needs to be dissipated is from the CPU. Any kind of air flow across the board would seem to suffice.
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