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post #31 of 136
4GHZ when old turbo kicks in? This gives me hope.
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3.5Ghz stock just seems like a gigahertz game with Intel. Why do they need it to be that high at stock settings? I would much rather a 2.66Ghz part @ 95watts than this at 130watts.

It makes little difference... I'm waiting to see how BD performs compared to the 2600K before I consider one or the other.

Doubt they'll beat Intel in clock performance, so maybe they're going for thread performance instead but Intel's version of SMT is pretty efficient
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post #33 of 136
Quote:
Originally Posted by JF-AMD View Post
ISSC happens in 2 weeks, this stuff came out in November.
will Bulldozer be talked about at ISSC?
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post #34 of 136
Quote:
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3.5Ghz stock just seems like a gigahertz game with Intel. Why do they need it to be that high at stock settings? I would much rather a 2.66Ghz part @ 95watts than this at 130watts.
Because the architecture is designed to run at a higher clock speed perhaps? For all we know, the 3.5GHz part could be 95 Watts. After all, there's less transistors than Thuban.
post #35 of 136
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Because the architecture is designed to run at a higher clock speed perhaps? For all we know, the 3.5GHz part could be 95 Watts. After all, there's less transistors than Thuban.
+1 - I think from the stuff AMD has been hinting at, Bulldozer will come in at 95W, and later iterations will be as low as 60W. I think the days of heat belching, inefficient processors that are 130W or more are now gone, mostly because at that level of heat, nothing is stable, at least on a chip that is a quarter inch square.
post #36 of 136
I dont take the fud seriously...Got to wait for some real info.
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This is interesting.
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post #38 of 136
Im upgrading to this regardless what happens, if its signicantly better than the phenom II's im more than happy providing its the same value!
post #39 of 136
This is amazing, imagine what will happen to the Phenoms price wise
post #40 of 136
AMD has not contradicted anything in that article, and the numbers at least seem plausible.

I'm not expecting core for core or clock for clock performance to match SB, but clock speeds sound quite promising (even if their isn't a ton of OC headroom) and with 8 cores, total performance should be very impressive.

I'm not really worried about single threaded performance. A ~4GHz 1st gen Core i7/i5 or Phenom II has pretty much all the single threaded speed I really find useful.

Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Punisher View Post
I didn't know cache size was gonna be the same. So besides its ability to "overclock itself", how exactly is BD better?
Cache size isn't the same. Bulldozer has double the L2 per core, and more total L3 than earlier AMD chips.

Regardless, cache size isn't that big of an issue. It's a completely overhauled architecture, and would likely be considerably faster, even with less cache, unless AMD really messed something up.

Quote:
Originally Posted by jammy4041 View Post
8MB L3 Cache =/= 8MB Cache.
Depends.

On Intel it does, as Intel uses inclusive cache. Everything in higher cache levels has to be duplicated in the lower ones.

I believe AMD still uses an exclusive design, so you'd add all cache levels together to determine the size of the data that can be held on the CPU.
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