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Originally Posted by Phantom123 View Post
Instead of constantly waiting for "The next big thing" people should make a goal for themselves. Like "I won't upgrade until the performance is at least XXX". For me, my upgrade cycle is once every 4 and half years. That gives an estimated 2 architectural changes with significant node shrink. Whoever is better at that time is the one I buy.
I do the same. I upgrade when my *favorite game at the moment* can't run at a decent FPS, then I look into upgrading.

Speaking of which, this should be soon, since my Athlon II is holding back SC2.
 
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I think it's pretty safe to assume that they will be faster than the previous versions.
Perhaps - but I think that with the migration towards more portable, more energy efficient computers, and with the want of Corporates and Enterprise environments to want small, efficient thin clients running applications off of Citrix servers, I can entirely see little upward change in clock speeds, and more concentration on pushing down energy consumption. Right now, a 95W processor takes it out of the realm of portable machines, so pushing that number down will allow for the migration of those processors to portable applications.

Of course, there is Bobcat, but that is only a partial solution, because it is energy efficient and ideal for battery operated environments - but it does not have the processing power that more and more modern applications demand.

And this has held true, by and large, as both Intel and AMD have put more cores onto chips, while at the same time, reducing power usage, but not really pushing clock rates up in any radical step.
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Perhaps - but I think that with the migration towards more portable, more energy efficient computers, and with the want of Corporates and Enterprise environments to want small, efficient thin clients running applications off of Citrix servers, I can entirely see little upward change in clock speeds, and more concentration on pushing down energy consumption. Right now, a 95W processor takes it out of the realm of portable machines, so pushing that number down will allow for the migration of those processors to portable applications.

Of course, there is Bobcat, but that is only a partial solution, because it is energy efficient and ideal for battery operated environments - but it does not have the processing power that more and more modern applications demand.

And this has held true, by and large, as both Intel and AMD have put more cores onto chips, while at the same time, reducing power usage, but not really pushing clock rates up in any radical step.
Clocks dont really mean much next to IPC improvements. My i7 can crunch Super PI in half a second faster than a p4@7.1ghz
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Originally Posted by -iceblade^ View Post
silly question, and you might not be able to answer, but i may as well ask anyways: do you know if there will be more support for mATX boards with 2 PCIe slots? more specifically boards of that nature, with SLI and Crossfire support?

that's one big thing i find with AMD, is that multi-GPU on mATX is very slim pickings, unlike on the Intel end... only the 890GXM G65 and that lacks SLI...
You need to ask the board people, AMD doesn't make boards.

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Originally Posted by joemaniaci View Post
Yes it does period, but having a large cache on-die will be slower than a smaller cache on-die.
Be careful about statements like that. So much of this world is workload dependent.

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Posted with reference to my link, not JF


I don't think Jf followed the link. I didn't know what ISSC was, so I googled it, that was the first thing that came up, I think they mean ISSCC.
Bulldozer will keep your clams clean. You heard it here first.
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Isn't it faster cause it is on the die?
Neither AMD nor Intel have used off-die caches for almost a decade.

The Socket A Athlon T-Birds and Socket 370 Pentium IIIs all had on-die cache.
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You need to ask the board people, AMD doesn't make boards.
it was worth a shot.

thanks for answering me
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They can hint all they like but I'll believe it when I see it. They 'hinted' at 4ghz dual cores a while back.
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bulldozer video
i just noticed its an pretty old video
Edited by knoxy_14 - 2/1/11 at 7:36pm
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If AMD had any sense, now with Intels cockup, is the perfect time to swoop in with Bulldozer!
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I agree.. but they are probably dealing with bugs too since its a whole new architecture.

Yea.. Sandy Bridges is about to chafe INtel
    
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