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Hey folks, I'm new to the forums so hope you don't mind me asking for your wisdom and ideas already. It's hugely thanks to reading around the forums here that I've come up with what I have so far. I've been working on this build for the last week or so and tonight finally finished figuring out all of the components I would ideally like to put in it. Trouble is, I might have gone slightly over budget... by a fair bit.

But then I look at this thing and I

The last computer I built was roughly six years ago, a P4 3.0 GHz with a GeForce 4 4800 in it, so to me this thing is seeming like skynet. Having been a student on the road to a Doctorate for quite some time now I've been tight on money since building that first box, but it died nearly a year ago and my laptop died last week which brings me to desperately needing a real computer again since I can't bear looking at a 10" screen on my girls netbook, with all the computing power of a modern oversized calculator.

If I messed up somewhere in this build, please let me know. If you see somewhere I could save some money by changing things up, please let me know (yes I know they're all premium parts and that's why it's so damn expensive, but I'm a perfectionist damnit, that's why the hardware is all themed black... I can't help it ). Better yet, if you know any voodoo money making rituals or other ways of conjuring money from thin air, PLEASE, let me know!

I really want to build a machine that's blazing fast (at least for the time being, trust me I know how it goes) and can last 3+ years before needing major upgrades/replacement.

Sorry for not giving a link to a wishlist or anything like that, I've been scoping out parts individually and writing them down all week on tightly compressed sheets of dead tree dust, cause I'm like that.

So0o0o0o, without further adieu, here she is:



PSU: Silverstone Strider Gold ST85-G, 850W, 80 PLUS Gold, 24-pin ATX12V v2.3 EPS12V, Two 6-pin + Two 8/6-pin PCIe

Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-P67A-UD7

CPU: Intel 2600k

Cooler: Noctua NH-D14

TIM: Arctic silver 5

Ram: 8GB (4 x 2GB) Mushkin Blackline PC3-12800 DDR3 1600MHz (6-8-6-24)

GPU: EVGA GTX 580 Black Ops Edition

Soundcard: HT Omega Claro Halo XT

System drive: OCZ 240GB RevoDrive X2 SSD, 740/720 MB/s (connects via PCIe x4)

Storage: 2x Western Digital 2TB Caviar Black, SATA 6 Gb/s, 7200 RPM, 64MB Cache

Fans: Scythe GentleTyphoons, Xigmatek, emphasis is on quiet while maintaining performance

Fan Controller: NZXT Sentry LXE

Case: NZXT Phantom - White

Case Lighting: - NZXT White Sleeved LED kit

Cable Management: MDPC White Sleeving



I would also either mod the side panel of the Phantom to cut out the side fan and add a window or replace it entirely with a custom windowed side. I'd also want to stick some acoustic dampening foam in that turkey, and maybe finish the madness with some anti-vibration fan mountings.... why not do the harddrives while I'm at it? Could I be more anal?

Help.

*edit for ram*
Edited by Mizaru - 1/29/11 at 12:15pm
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What is your budget for this build? What will you be using your computer for?

Is it mainly gaming, or will it have other uses?

Overall it looks pretty solid, but for a Windows / System drive the OCZ 240GB RevoDrive X2 seems like overkill to me. Will it be fast? absolutely, but @ $600+, it's not really a bargain.

If you must have such a drive, how about the OCZ RevoDrive OCZSSDPX-1RVD0120 PCI-E x4 120GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227578

Sustained Write: up to 470 MB/s which is still pretty insane.

Otherwise, I'd just go with an X-25M 120GB for like $229

What monitor and resolution are you going to be using?

The other parts in this build that may be overkill are the Sound card, Mobo, and of course that SSD you're looking at.

Also, you should be looking at 1600 MHZ memory minimum.

Everything else looks solid.
Edited by 2010rig - 1/29/11 at 2:08am
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Scratch RAM you need 1600 or 1866 low CL7 or8 2x4gb
for SSD get Crucial C300 sata 6GB or X-25M,OCZ vertex 2
TIM MX-2 or MX-4,
if you don't need HT get 2500K,
fan controller Lamptron 30W per channel
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Hey guys, thanks for the responses so far. I just spent a half hour typing a detailed response to what you've said so far on my girls iPad since she was using the netbook for her thesis research/writing (nothing like a 10" screen and mini keyboard for that kind of work), but then when I was a couple sentences from being done, I wanted to look up one thing in another tab and bam, everything I had written was gone and I was back to a login screen with no way to recover the text... spiffy. So here's a condensed version that I hope still covers it all. (from the netbook I stole back for a minute in case you were wondering )

To answer 2010rig's questions:

The budget for the build is loosely set at $3000, but I could probably push it to 4. It's going to be a genuinely multi-purpose machine, so to illustrate some uses let me tell you how I used my last rig.

Music. Holy crap the music, there's so much of it. I've been a musician studying since I was 5 and I like to think I have ears that hear things most dogs miss, so the soundcard was selected based on awesome reviews, the headphone amp as it has to drive Sennheiser HD-650's, the changable op-amp, and I somehow trust the fact that it's coming from a dedicated audio company. I was also considering an Asus Xonar ST, and had fleeting crazy thoughts of an RME fireface 800, but settled on the Claro XT as being the most practical/best bang for the buck. I think I'm gonna pick up some Logitech z-5500 digital 5.1 speakers. My old build had the non thx Logitech 5.1's and they sounded awesome for the roughly $60 they cost (6-7 years ago).

Video. I do very rarely some modest video editing for friends/collegues, a fair bit of photoshop, and while hardly an intense task I use the TV out on the video card to hook up my old 4:3 TV and use it as a media server of sorts.

Games. Well I do love games, but I lost nearly 9 months to Morrowind once and I can't go doing that again You can pretty much rest assured it will have SC2 on there if nothing else.

The RevoDrive x2 is overkill to an extreme I know, but wouldn't a system like this see benefits from its speed or would it get bottle necked?

The thing giving me some of the most difficulty is the monitor. See, I've always been extremely sensitive to refresh rates. On old CRT's, I could see the flickering at anything under 85Hz and it would give me a headache fast. As long as it was 85Hz + though it looked great and I could look at it forever. On most LCD's, while I can't see any flickering they tend to make me feel pretty sick, pretty quick, so I was hoping a 120Hz monitor might help with that. From what I've read about panel types, I'm thinking a VA panel might suit me best, but honestly I am feeling a bit lost here.

Oh and holy crap, I can't believe I listed the wrong ram. That's what I get for doing it at 3am. I meant to say...

Ram: 8GB (4 x 2GB) Mushkin Blackline PC3-12800 DDR3 1600MHz (6-8-6-24)

Would you still switch it up? I liked the timings plus the sexy blackness to go with all the other components, but if you have other recommendations by all means... Speed is what I'm after here (in case the RevoDrive x2 didn't tip you off)

To address what coolhandluke41 said:

Any particular reason to go with 2x4GB sticks over 4x2GB sticks if I found 2GB sticks with say better timings?

What makes you like MX-2/4 TIM over the AS 5? Based on the 80 TIM roundup I read, the AS5 produces slightly better temps than the MX-2:
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...&limitstart=12

I don't plan on having any high powered fans in this case either as I'm after a very quiet if not silent build, so I thought the Sentry LXE would be able to power the fans while looking damn cool. I know it's not the all out best fan controller by any stretch, but wouldn't it do the job just fine?

... that wasn't really condensed at all. Oh well.
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Why the hell are you getting the 580 Black ops? get the superclocked or stock, black ops edition is stock with artwork......

silver arrow is also good cooler, on par with noctua dh-n14
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ram: mushkin black/red, corsair vengeance/dominator, gskill ripjaws

get a pair of nice headphones and asus xonar.

the dell 27 is great too
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http://www.gainward.com/main/vgapro.php?id=454[/url]
this for video card.
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"Any particular reason to go with 2x4GB sticks over 4x2GB sticks"..simple ,better over clocking
"What makes you like MX-2/4 TIM over the AS 5?"..have been LC rigs for some time ,AS5 is electrically conductive,200 hours curing time,etc
look at the temps/mount comparison ,if you want the best get Idigo extreme or Shin-Etsu;
http://skinneelabs.com/indigoxtreme.html
http://skinneelabs.com/tim-v2.html
if you want "very quiet if not silent build" shave of some $ and go LC
as for fan controllers..it's your call,remember they not that expensive but if you get a sucky one it will give you headache

EDIT; just like this Moe (the one with 3 reply's in 6 min) say 580 black ops sound a bit overkill for
your needs ..you be just fine with vanilla 570 (best bang for your buck)
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Somebodysb32:

Why the hell black ops gpu? Because everything in the case from mobo to ram is freakin black and that was the best looking black card I found... Yours looks better damnit . Not heard of gainward before though, how are they as a company to deal with?

*edit* Holy crap I just saw that card takes up 2.5 slots and looks... Awkward when viewed from the side

Def been reading about the silver arrow, but I have seen some really unpolished blocks from Thermalright and don't want to have to lap it myself. I do like how it's meant to last longer against oxidation, but honestly I'm not sure how big of an issue that is to begin with...

Get nice headphones? I have HD650's with Cardas cable so not sure what you mean there... I've got some Shure SE535's as well for that matter...

What makes you like the Xonar over the Claro though?

Coolhandluke41:

simple answer on the ram, makes sense.

I'll definately look into those other TIM's, busy right now but will later for sure.

I know I could go liquid cooling but honestly I have so much to deal with on a daily basis that even the twice a year maintainance sounds like a pain in the butt thats not worth it... Unless you meant something like the h50/70.

As for the fan controller, I'm guessing you have had some bad luck?

I'll look into the 570 later on too...

Stuck on the iPad to write this... Hope there weren't too many typos.
Edited by Mizaru - 1/29/11 at 2:48pm
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somebodysb2, instead of posting like 4 times in 5 minutes, just edit your originak post please.
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