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Hello. First time poster. Just want to say I am Norwegian, so if there's anything that seems unclear because of my English, please just say so Btw, I hope this is the right thread, if not just move it

I have had a thread up on a Norwegian forum for a while now, and have got loads of inputs, but thought getting a second look at it would be a good idea. I am planing to build a new desktop, and have set aside 3000 quid for this. I know most people would go for multiple monitors (and/or watercooling), but I don't have the space for more monitors for the time being, and cba with watercooling (though I might in the future).

Here is the setup I have so far:

CPU: Intel Core™ i7 Quad Processor i7-2600K
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD7 (or ASUS P8P67 WS Revolution?)
GPU: 2 x GeForce GTX 580 1536MB (don't know from which company though?)
PSU: Corsair AX 1200W
RAM: Corsair Vengeance™ DDR3 1600MHz 2 x 4GB CL8 or Corsair Dominator DDR3 1600MHz 4 x 2GB CL8
HDD: Seagate Barracuda XT 7200.12 2TB
SSD: Tbh, not sure which one to go for. I was thinking of the Crucial RealSSD C300 2,5" 128GB, but just saw that the Corsair SSD Performance 3 Series 128GB came out. Should I mabye go for the Corsair, or will there be some better SSDs in the (really) near future?
Case: Been going back and forth now. My definitiv favourite is the Corsair Obsidian 800D, but I have heard it has problems with air cooling (can this be fixed with changing of fans, and adding more fans, but without modding?). I don't really like the looks of for example the CM HAF X and Antec 1200. I have also been looking at the CM Cosmos S, some Lian Li cases (but cable management looks bad on most), Silverstone Raven/Fortress, NZXT Phantom and CM ATCS 840
Soundcard: ASUS Xonar D2X/XDT, 7.1 channel (Seems good from reviews)
DVD/Blu-ray-player: Lite-On Blu-Ray Reader IHOS104-37 (guess that one is fine?)
Monitor: As this is mainly for gaming I have not really looked at IPS because of the high latency. The best gaming laptop I seem to find is the nVIDIA 3D Vision & BenQ 23,6" XL2410T (the 3D kit is just in the bundle with the monitor).
Cooling: As I asked earlier, I am not sure if I need to replace fans, add fans etc? Also what do you think for CPU-cooling. Most large CPU-coolers conflict with the ribs on the RAM, so I was mabye thinking of going for the Corsair H70, what do you think?

I will be buying all the components from the same Norwegian webstore, if anyone wanted to know (most likely from www.amentio.no as they are the cheapest, if not I will be buying from www.dustinhome.no or www.komplett.no)

If I forgot anything just ask!

- Espen Andreassen
Edited by Espen - 1/29/11 at 11:18am
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It all looks pretty good to me i don't think you can go wrong with any of these parts.

One thing only, why not higher speed mems? 2133/1866MHz?

Can't choose between the Motherboards
Any SSD with the SandForce controller is top notch.
CM Cosmos S and NZXT Phantom are good cases, Cable management is better at the Phantom i think, already tried both of them. you won't have airflow problems with the Phantom too.
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The only advice I will give is don't buy a ssd now, as a new sandforce controller will be released in a few months time. These drives will be a lot faster than current gens. Just get a regular HDD now and get a ssd when these new drives are released.
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It all looks pretty good to me i don't think you can go wrong with any of these parts.

One thing only, why not higher speed mems? 2133/1866MHz?

Can't choose between the Motherboards
Any SSD with the SandForce controller is top notch.
CM Cosmos S and NZXT Phantom are good cases, Cable management is better at the Phantom i think, already tried both of them. you won't have airflow problems with the Phantom too.
Tbh, I have no idea how different memory speeds work, I just thought that there was no benefit for memory speeds over 1600 as the motherboard only handled it, and would downclock anything higher

The bad things I have heard about the NZXT Phantom are that the stock fans are not too good (and that you might need to install more fans), that there was something weird installing the 3.5'' bays, that it's a fingerprint magnet, that the rubber around the cable management holes fall off and that the fan controllers don't messure accurate fan speeds. Not the worst things though.

On the Cooler Master Cosmos S I have heard that the front bay is only held by plastic, there is no reset button, (some say the cable management is not good) and larger CPU coolers will hit the side fan.

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If you in Europe the Gainward Phantom 580 is coming out soon.

http://www.gainward.com/main/vgapro.php?id=454

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If you in Europe the Gainward Phantom 580 is coming out soon.

http://www.gainward.com/main/vgapro.php?id=454
I just looked at one of the stores, and they have listed it as 4th of Feb, is it worth the ~90 quid extra over the normal GTX 580s?
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Hello. First time poster. Just want to say I am Norwegian, so if there's anything that seems unclear because of my English, please just say so Btw, I hope this is the right thread, if not just move it

I have had a thread up on a Norwegian forum for a while now, and have got loads of inputs, but thought getting a second look at it would be a good idea. I am planing to build a new desktop, and have set aside 3000 quid for this. I know most people would go for multiple monitors (and/or watercooling), but I don't have the space for more monitors for the time being, and cba with watercooling (though I might in the future).
Good approach Espen, and btw your English is excellent - I wish my second language was as good!

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Here is the setup I have so far:

CPU: Intel Coreâ„¢ i7 Quad Processor i7-2600K
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD7 (or ASUS P8P67 WS Revolution?)
Good choices I would think - still trying to ramp up on the Sandy Bridge stuff though. I'll know more in a bit when my dad and I get his new rig running.

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GPU: 2 x GeForce GTX 580 1536MB (don't know from which company though?)
Right now nearly all of these cards are pretty much straight from nVidia with little difference except the artwork and cosmetic design. So if you aren't buying an OC'd or tweaked card, it pretty much comes down to who is giving the best price and has the best service policies (return, etc.,) as well. EVGA is one to consider, but not the only one.

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PSU: Corsair AX 1200W


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RAM: Corsair Vengeanceâ„¢ DDR3 1600MHz 2 x 4GB CL8 or Corsair Dominator DDR3 1600MHz 4 x 2GB CL8
Good chip brand but I tend to agree with the previous poster about using something in the 1800+ range. Don't forget the timings as well although at this speed most everyone has pretty good timings (or else.)

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HDD: Seagate Barracuda XT 7200.12 2TB
Seagate is not a favorite, I would pick the Western Digital Caviar Black in the same size.

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SSD: Tbh, not sure which one to go for. I was thinking of the Crucial RealSSD C300 2,5" 128GB, but just saw that the Corsair SSD Performance 3 Series 128GB came out. Should I mabye go for the Corsair, or will there be some better SSDs in the (really) near future?
Again, a previous poster beat me to it - wait a bit and when the next-generation Sandforce comes out you can either get it or buy the current generation at a cheaper price. (Then again, the "waiting game" in buying computer stuff can drive you mad, so the above is good! )

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Case: Been going back and forth now. My definitiv favourite is the Corsair Obsidian 800D, but I have heard it has problems with air cooling (can this be fixed with changing of fans, and adding more fans, but without modding?). I don't really like the looks of for example the CM HAF X and Antec 1200. I have also been looking at the CM Cosmos S, some Lian Li cases (but cable management looks bad on most), Silverstone Raven/Fortress, NZXT Phantom and CM ATCS 840
Some of the Silverstone cases are good for air - how about the FT02 as it has a proven reputation as a very good air-cooling case? Also the Lian Li PC-A77F (a case I was looking at for my new rig before I went Mountain Mod mad. )

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Soundcard: ASUS Xonar D2X/XDT, 7.1 channel (Seems good from reviews)
For 7.1 sound, it's one of the, if not THE, best.
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Originally Posted by Espen View Post
DVD/Blu-ray-player: Lite-On Blu-Ray Reader IHOS104-37 (guess that one is fine?)
Monitor: As this is mainly for gaming I have not really looked at IPS because of the high latency. The best gaming laptop I seem to find is the nVIDIA 3D Vision & BenQ 23,6" XL2410T (the 3D kit is just in the bundle with the monitor).
Cooling: As I asked earlier, I am not sure if I need to replace fans, add fans etc? Also what do you think for CPU-cooling. Most large CPU-coolers conflict with the ribs on the RAM, so I was mabye thinking of going for the Corsair H70, what do you think?
Blu-Ray is fine, as to monitor - how about the ASUS 27" inchers?

About air-cooling, the Noctua has a deserved great rep, although it will probably have the problem you write about with making RAM installation difficult or even impossible. Some people have had luck installing it to blow air UP instead of in the usual way.

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If I forgot anything just ask!
UPS? This kind of rig deserves power protection! Are you thinking of purchasing one?

Wireless or Bluetooth? Keyboard or mouse? Relatively minor but they are you main interaction points with system (along with monitor of course.) "Interaction" becomes somewhat secondary if this is going to be a server or a dedicated distributed computing (F@h or BOINC, etc.,) rig.

Good luck - you came to the right place btw!

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@Espen
for the Mobo, go with ud7/ p8p67/ maximus 4
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might wanna watercool too, i heard 2x 580's get pretty hot.
lian li is very high quality, tj11 if price drops
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