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Well, it's been quite some time since I've built a new computer, and I'm working on an upcoming project involving a 1155 socket motherboard.

Here is what I currently plan for my guild:

GIGABYTE GA-P67A-UD7 - 329.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128465

COOLER MASTER Silent Pro RSA00-AMBAJ3-US 1000W - 169.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817171049

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 4GB (4 x 2GB) - 159.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231444

Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz - 224.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115072

Rosewill BLACKHAWK Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - 99.99
http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/Sh...px?Submit=view

Total: 984.42

Well, I'm almost dead set on this build, and I really want to finalize it. This is my concern, however. The new Ivy Bridge is apparently set to release sometime in either 2011-2012. Many sources indicate that it will be compatible with socket 1155; however, a few sources also indicate that it will require another motherboard due to chipset requirements.

The sources which indicate that the Ivy Bridge CPU will be incompatible with current P67 motherboards is supported by a site calld "Fudzilla." Now, the source itself seems highly questionable as many threads have begun questioning its authenticity.

A recent post by "jimmysmithy" argues the following:

"I would agree. It seems unlikley that a die shrink would bring about any incompatabilities considering that pretty much everything is on the CPU now and the chipset has very little to do with compatability beyond it being able to recognize the CPU and provide the correct voltage.

I am sure that if it was possble, without the GPU integrated on die, Sandy bridge probably could have been placed on LGA1156. But wih a on die GPU it probably changed the pin layout compared to the MCM that current LGA1156 CPU/GPUs have too much to be saved. The chipset means nothing. Hell AsRock created a LGA1156 mobo with the P67 chipset:

http://www.techpowerup.com/135241/ [...] ipset.html

That alone shows the chipsets little influence in CPU support these days. I imagine soon the northbridge chipset may not exist and at some point the southbridge may also get moved to the CPU. "

On a technical point, this sounds fairly logical. However, I am not expert on computers. I just enjoy playing around with settings (sadly probably more than I enjoy playing games on them).

This is my first true enthusiast build and since I won't be able to build another computer for quite some time, I would like to believe that I could someday upgrade my CPU without replacing my motherboard if the need ever arises.

So this is my question: Should I invest in the current LGA 1155 socket motherboards and place my hopes that I will be able to upgrade it with an Ivy Bridge CPU (if the need ever calls) , or should I --painfully-- wait (possibly up to 6 months to a year) for confirmation as to whether my first enthusiast motherboard will be incompatible with the new Ivy Bridge CPU?

Also, any critique on my current build is welcome. I'm planning to go SLI with it. I was going to get the same model 850 watt PSU, but the 1000 watt was only about 15-20 dollars more expensive.

I like to think of my computer as an investment...

Thanks for the time and the read--
Mike-
Edited by jivenjune - 1/30/11 at 2:04am
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There's always something better coming out, if you wait, you'll be waiting forever. SEIZE THE DAY and get it now =D

Aren't you going to reuse your CM case? And you probably won't need a UD7, a UD4 should be plenty.
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There's always something better coming out, if you wait, you'll be waiting forever. SEIZE THE DAY and get it now =D

Aren't you going to reuse your CM case? And you probably won't need a UD7, a UD4 should be plenty.
Yeah, I probably don't need it. I'm splurging quite a bit since I so rarely treat myself to anything decent in life. Screwing around with my computer is one of my few true joys, so I decided that I want some of the top of the line stuff this time around.

I could technically reuse my CM690, but I have a particular fascination with the overall aesthetics of my computer. It's silly, I know, but I enjoy keeping my computer completely clean, easy to manage, color coordinated and easy to access.

The specs on the Blackhawk are almost exactly the same as the CM690 II advanced. I find that fairly humorous, since Rosewill blatantly ripped off the style. Funny thing is that I like how the Blackhawk doesn't dip down in the front--it's the small things that make all the difference to me.

I can't justify it, and even trying to explain it makes it seem silly now that I think about it...
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Yeah, I probably don't need it. I'm splurging quite a bit since I so rarely treat myself to anything decent in life. Screwing around with my computer is one of my few true joys, so I decided that I want some of the top of the line stuff this time around.

I could technically reuse my CM690, but I have a particular fascination with the overall aesthetics of my computer. It's silly, I know, but I enjoy keeping my computer completely clean, easy to manage, color coordinated and easy to access.

The specs on the Blackhawk are almost exactly the same as the CM690 II advanced. I find that fairly humorous, since Rosewill blatantly ripped off the style. Funny thing is that I like how the Blackhawk doesn't dip down in the front--it's the small things that make all the difference to me.

I can't justify it, and even trying to explain it makes it seem silly now that I think about it...
you dont have to justify anything, but if your getting the UD7 why only a 2500k. and if you dont need the nf200 chipset why not get a cheaper mobo and a 2600k?
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you dont have to justify anything, but if your getting the UD7 why only a 2500k. and if you dont need the nf200 chipset why not get a cheaper mobo and a 2600k?
I mostly want something that has a lot of potential for future upgrades. From what I've read, there wouldn't be a huge difference between using the 2600k and the 2500k in terms of gaming. I was actually opting for the i7 2600k with the UD5 until I read a significant amount of reviews and benchmarks indicating that the performance gain (in gaming) between the two is negligible. With the money I saved from downgrading my CPU, I opted for a UD7 board that can run 2-way SLI at x16 x16 or 3-way SLI at 16x 8x 8x. It was either a UD7 with a 2500k i5 or a UD5 with an i7 2600k for the same price.
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well maybe somewhere in the future the games will use the HT from the I7, and in that case the 2600k would be better imo. plus ive read in a couple articles that the 8x/8x has only a 1% performance drop compared to 16x/16x. next to that you might be upgrading to a new card at some point. i can see your running a 20" screen atm. a single card setup would be more than enough for that i think(in case you care about the 1% drop).
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well maybe somewhere in the future the games will use the HT from the I7, and in that case the 2600k would be better imo. plus ive read in a couple articles that the 8x/8x has only a 1% performance drop compared to 16x/16x. next to that you might be upgrading to a new card at some point. i can see your running a 20" screen atm. a single card setup would be more than enough for that i think(in case you care about the 1% drop).
Yeah, the build at the moment is just a start. I'm hoping to get a 27" monitor at some point, but money isn't something I can just casually throw around (though this build seems to indicate differently...) I'm actually not sure how far I plan to take this build, yet.
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Also I don't think you need a 1000 watts PSU, save the money and upgrade the CPU and Mobo now. When you get a bigger screen and need to SLI, then get a new PSU.

Wouldn't a UD5 + i5-2500k be sufficient? Save the money for other upgrades such as SSD.
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"That alone shows the chipsets little influence in CPU support these days. I imagine soon the northbridge chipset may not exist and at some point the southbridge may also get moved to the CPU. "

makes no sense. The northbridge already doesn't exist with 1156 and 1155.

Waiting also makes no sense. Buy what you need now. Something better is _always_ around the corner. I mean, why stop there? Why not wait for Haswell? Wait, right after Haswell, there's Rockwell. Wait for that.

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seems like every 3-4 months Intel redoes its CPUs,its called planned obsolescence and know one does it better than the Computer industry and I hear so many people ask
"Should I wait"?
Waiting on the next best thing will never get your rig made,screw waiting ,build! now! trust me,what ever you build today will be made obsolete in a few months by the MFG...

going from your current system to any i7 series will blow you away
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