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I would like to add to this, I have removed my heat sink once and left the thermal paste on the CPU, then attached the heat sink with the same thermal paste, and saw no difference in temps.
This!

Allen: this is why I have said everything that I have said so far, and this is why I have asked you the questions that I have asked. You may not need to put any fresh thermal paste on.
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Edit: Guys, he did not say that he cleaned the TIM off.
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It is essential that you have some, so if you cleaned it all off and put things back together, get some before you stress your CPU.

Way ahead of you... (although not as obvious)

Yes, if you have seen no difference in temps then you should be good to go. Although from the description of the paste being like glue I would be surprised if it was still good, who knows? Lets find out...



Interesting point though, it would be cool to do an investigation into how various pastes react to being re-applied in this manner after certain lengths of time. A bit time / labour / equipment intensive for my capabilities though.
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Just wondering, on average how often do you change your thermal pastes? 1-2 a year or more?

Since building my PC last september I have changed it once inbetween first applying and now. My temps are good, even better after my second application. Thinking about re applying to see how they react.
    
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Just wondering, on average how often do you change your thermal pastes? 1-2 a year or more?
Unless you are removing your cooler anyway it is only worth doing if you see a marked increase in load temperatures, and even then only to eliminate a potential cause.

I wouldn't think that the paste will significantly degrade in performance over the life of your computer.

Edit: Your changes in temperature may well be due to getting a better mount the second time, nothing to do with the qualities of the paste.

In Vapor's test he saw over 2C difference between mounts when using AS5 for example (see below). Keep in mind that he will do literally hundreds of mounts during the course of his tests, so he should be fairly consistent.


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Just wondering, on average how often do you change your thermal pastes? 1-2 a year or more?

Since building my PC last september I have changed it once inbetween first applying and now. My temps are good, even better after my second application. Thinking about re applying to see how they react.
you should only really change your paste when you see your temps increasing, that's usually when I know the paste is on its way out, and it all depends on the paste, if you have cheap paste, it will most likely last only for around 2 years, but with good quality it most likely could last up to 4+ years.
But this is OCN hardly anyone keeps their CPU's for more than 3 years here
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Lol, you took the tim off then put the heatsink back on?

Take the heatsink off again, get isopropyl alcohol (90%+) and clean the top of the cpu and bottom of heat sink. Reapply thermal paste (imo) in the pea fashion) Youtube it if you need to.
What happens if you use 70% alcohol?
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What happens if you use 70% alcohol?
Your CPU doesn't get drunk fast enough and wont think that your heatsink is attractive, so it won't try to mate with it.


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70% is fine, a lot of people try to get the CPU as clean as possible, however a few impurities on the surface is not going to make an appreciable difference. Clean it with 70% alcohol / surgical spirit / nail polish remover (without scent) and you will be sorted.
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Your CPU doesn't get drunk fast enough and wont think that your heatsink is attractive, so it won't try to mate with it.


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70% is fine, a lot of people try to get the CPU as clean as possible, however a few impurities on the surface is not going to make an appreciable difference. Clean it with 70% alcohol / surgical spirit / nail polish remover (without scent) and you will be sorted.
I'm even more ghetto:

I used 91% Isopropyl Alcohol, Bounty paper towels (plain white ones because they're more masculine than the printed ones), and a razor. The paper towels were used to clean the TIM off as best as I could, and the razor was used to gently scrape off the dried TIM that the paper towels and Isopropyl Alcohol couldn't get.

When I was finished, I discovered that I was getting slightly lower temperatures, and I was using the same brand/model of TIM.
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Best to wipe off as much of the old thermal paste as possible, then use 91%+ alcohol or acetone (also found in nail polish remover) to dissolve whatever remaining gunk that refuses to come off. You should then clean off the solution using lintless paper such as coffee filters or lens wipes.

To apply the new paste, apply a pea sized grain of paste in the middle. Rice-sized if both your heatsink and cpu are mirror flat. Then just place the heatsink on the cpu and the pea will get squeezed outwards between the two surfaces and also keep air bubbles from forming.

Other guys advocate using a thin line across the longest side of the cpu core. Either way works, just don't spread out the paste by hand or with a razor. Usually its almost impossible to spread out the paste manually perfectly flat, resulting in air bubbles getting trapped when you put the two surfaces togethers.

If you have a HDT heatsink, different methods will be required (I assume you have a "normal" one).
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You should probably replace it every 3-6 months and thats what i do..I had so thermal paste on my old dell that i never replaced and ONCE i took off the heatsink and looked at it, it looked burned...and maybe tahts what happens when i leave it almost 24/7 for almost 1 year... (:
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