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Building this for my dad, mostly all it'll be used for is web browsing and e-mails with the occasional game of Colin McRae Rally 4 or Microsoft Train Simulator.

Intel Celeron E3500 2.70GHz
Gigabyte GA-G31M-ES2L iG31
2gb Kingston Value RAM
Asus 4350 512mb

Already got a case, fans and power supply. The power supply is about 300 watts I think, that should be enough shouldn't it? Improvements welcomed, but this is a budget build. Also would the integrated graphics be enough for what he'll be doing with it?

Thanks.

EDIT: I'm in the UK by the way.
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NOOOOO!!!Don't get Celeron!!! Get Pentium!!!
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Yes, Pentium is a better choice.
    
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How does this look?

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/200938

Why do you say it's better?
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That's better.

Celerons are just bad pentiums... I think
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Quote:
Originally Posted by snelan View Post
Yes, Pentium is a better choice.
not always.

some Pentiums ( which I am sure you guys mean the dual-core ones, and not the old single-core) are 65nm, while this Celeron is 45nm, which means it will run cooler, and will overclock better if he wants to.

and in either case, this will be more than enough for the purposes he mentioned that his father will use his PC for.

regards.
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post #7 of 9
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not always.

some Pentiums ( which I am sure you guys mean the dual-core ones, and not the old single-core) are 65nm, while this Celeron is 45nm, which means it will run cooler, and will overclock better if he wants to.

and in either case, this will be more than enough for the purposes he mentioned that his father will use his PC for.

regards.
Overclocking won't be happening I shouldn't think. How hot is hotter? It probably won't matter too much, the room it'll be in is always freezing.
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I dont know how intense Microsoft Train Simulator is. But if it is being played at a somewhat high resolution (1600x900) you might want to consider buying a better graphic card perhaps used. Maybe a 400W PSU as well, in case future updatability.
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Sorry, forgot to mention resolution, it's only 1156 x 856. Train Sim can get down to about 5 fps with some user made map packs, but that's on an Athlon 2400+ with an Nvidia 4200 (not so sure if that is the graphics card) The trouble is budget. Is there anything better for around that price? This really does have to be as cheap as possible.

Thanks for the help so far.
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