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I really would like to give a simple cpu loop a go.

Looking for some advice on pros and cons of water cooling, aside from catastrophic failure.

Just some questions i can think of: How much maintenance is required? How often does the coolant need to be changed? Is there is a chance of failure after you have it all setup correctly, ie hose issues, pumps, ect...?

Any other advice would help as well.

Also thought i would throw this out there, since I am just looking to get my feet wet so to speak, would a kit be more appropriate.

Such as: XSPC Rasa 750 RS120 Kit

http://www.xoxide.com/dc-750-kits.html

There was an owners thread for these kits and it really sparked my interest being as it was a reasonable price. Also would like to keep it internal. This is for my sig rig.

I guess i should ask as well would this kit yield any measurable difference between an h50/60/70, aside form the coolness factor of water cooling?

Thank you in advance
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Maintenance, if you're using distilled water and a biocide is practically zip once you put it together. Odds are you'll want to tear your loop apart for curiousity/expansion long before you'd need a fresh fill of coolant. Maintenance is basically making sure liquid level is topped off.

If you take your time, leak-test and use good metal real-deal hose clamps that are $1USD each from the hardware store...it is quite unlikely you'd have to worry about a leak.

On my 1055T@3.6gHz, with an RS360 setup the diff between H50 shrouded p/p with GT-AP15s and a RASA 360 loop was 10-15C load.

My i7-950 on load at stock tops out at 40C Tcase, and 45-50core temp in folding WU6701--using a Swiftech EDGE 240 setup. OCing to 4.0 doesn't raise temps that much.
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if you do it right you don't need to do anything unless you upgrade
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Pros:
It keeps stuff nice and cool
It looks cool
It can be quiet (if you use quiet fans )

Cons:
Occasional maintenance
The chance that something will leek
It's usualy not that cheap

For the maintenance, you usualy have to clean it every 3-4 monthes. If you use colored coolant, or coolant with dye, you have to clean it out even more often (or you could just buy colored tubing ). If you set everything up right, theres very small chance that it will leak, but once you get it setup, you would usualy leak test the loop by just turning on the pump, and leaving everything else off. There is though, no point in water cooling if you don't really want to overclock past what a regular cooler can do. That kit though, is a great kit, but instead of the RS120 kit, get the RS240 or RS360. If you're on a budget, that kit is perfect. If you were to get a custom one, it's going to be a lot more money.
    
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if you do a leak test, no leaking will happen
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There is though, no point in water cooling if you don't really want to overclock past what a regular cooler can do
Sure there is. Peace and quiet.
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Just do it. the more elaborate the set up the better chance for failure, mosfet coolers, chipset coolers, yada yada yada, start with your cpu and develop the bug from there you will be ripping apart your loop to add more that always happens. Buying large cooling blocks is 50-50 because reference board designs change so your block will always find a capaitor to block it it seems............water cooling is fun do it !


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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gnomepatrol View Post
I really would like to give a simple cpu loop a go.

Looking for some advice on pros and cons of water cooling, aside from catastrophic failure.

Just some questions i can think of: How much maintenance is required? How often does the coolant need to be changed? Is there is a chance of failure after you have it all setup correctly, ie hose issues, pumps, ect...?

Any other advice would help as well.

Also thought i would throw this out there, since I am just looking to get my feet wet so to speak, would a kit be more appropriate.

Such as: XSPC Rasa 750 RS120 Kit

http://www.xoxide.com/dc-750-kits.html

There was an owners thread for these kits and it really sparked my interest being as it was a reasonable price. Also would like to keep it internal. This is for my sig rig.

I guess i should ask as well would this kit yield any measurable difference between an h50/60/70, aside form the coolness factor of water cooling?

Thank you in advance
First of all the maintenance required for water cooling is very minimal. You could use the same water for months or even a year or two, assuming that you use Distilled water w/ PT-Nuke or Kill coil (Which you should anyways).

One maintenance that you would need is clearing off the dust from the radiator.

99.9% of leaks is from the user end. Not making sure that the barbs are tight or over tightening the barbs are some of the examples of user end leaks. There are cases where it is the manufacturing fault, but it's more on the user end side.

I would recommend you look for the 240mm kit instead of the 120mm though.
Better bang for the buck IMO.

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11..._Hot_Item.html

But if space is a problem, the 120mm kit will outperform the H50/60/70.
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Just do it. the more elaborate the set up the better chance for failure, mosfet coolers, chipset coolers, yada yada yada, start with your cpu and develop the bug from there you will be ripping apart your loop to add more that always happens. Buying large cooling blocks is 50-50 because reference board designs change so your block will always find a capaitor to block it it seems............water cooling is fun do it !


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Adding a picture of my rig that i want to add the loop to. As you see its small which is why i like the fact that the pump would fit in the unused 3.5 bays, at least that is how it appears. I am speaking of the kit that i posted.

As far as clocks im looking to get the standard 4.0 see where the temps stand and start going to 4.2 then hopefully around 4.4 is where i would hope to max at. At 4.4 i would imagine i would need to add another 120 rad to the loop of the kit which i could in the bottom front 120 intake of the 341.

Any thoughts on this?
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