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I have a Samsung PX2370. The first had a lot of backlight bleed. I sent it back to Newegg for a replacement and the second had just as much backlight bleed. I'm now returning it and almost ignoring Samsung altogether. I'm looking for a monitor with minimal to no backlight bleed. It's irritating especially when watching movies and seeing a huge glow of blue-black at the bottom and top edges.

Please recommend me a good monitor that has 2ms and no backlight bleed. Something around 24". I was thinking the VW246H, or the VH246H. What do you guys think?
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I haven't tried the Asus 24" screens, but my VH236H (23", 1920x1080) is pretty nice. On a totally black screen, you will see a little backlight bleed (minimal, but it's there). It isn't noticeable any other time.
 
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Thanks mojo. I don't see the bleed when playing games just when the screen is dark. Any other recommendations?
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You really won't notice anything under about 8ms. I would recommend Dell monitors. Ultra nice quality. Prices are a little higher, but I think they're worth it.
    
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Originally Posted by Willanhanyard View Post
You really won't notice anything under about 8ms. I would recommend Dell monitors. Ultra nice quality. Prices are a little higher, but I think they're worth it.

I very strongly disagree with this statement, based on real world experience. I have 3 monitors here in front of me. 2ms TN > NEC 6ms IPS > DELL 8ms UH2311H IPS.

The Dell's are not suited for FPS especially when comparing it head on to the 6ms NEC(visually looks like 4ms) and the 2ms panel. BC2 looks bad on the dells since they are unable to maintain a clear image when in average speed motion.
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I very strongly disagree with this statement, based on real world experience. I have 3 monitors here in front of me. 2ms TN > NEC 6ms IPS > DELL 8ms UH2311H IPS.

The Dell's are not suited for FPS especially when comparing it head on to the 6ms NEC(visually looks like 4ms) and the 2ms panel. BC2 looks bad on the dells since they are unable to maintain a clear image when in average speed motion.
I strongly disagree with your statement too. I have a 2ms 1920x1080 tv, and I love my ips monitor a lot more than the tv. I don't notice any difference between the 2ms on the tv, and the 8ms on my ips.
    
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The 2ms number is a LIE


It means how many milliseconds a pixel takes to change color, but it's measured gray to gray, so it has no significance in real life applications.

I have a 16ms monitor that doesn't ghost at all and a 2ms monitors that ghosts SOME.

So it doesn't mean a thing.


It's a fact that IPS monitors ghost a lot more, but it's still not enough to justify abandoning them. IPS monitors just looks so much better that a little bit of ghosting doesn't hurt. TN monitors look awful compared to IPS monitors but they ghost less.
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Originally Posted by De-Zant View Post
The 2ms number is a LIE


It means how many milliseconds a pixel takes to change color, but it's measured gray to gray, so it has no significance in real life applications.

I have a 16ms monitor that doesn't ghost at all and a 2ms monitors that ghosts SOME.

So it doesn't mean a thing.
It has quite a significance and it does mean something that is a proven fact. It's a given that response time is measured from gray to gray but the typical IPS panel takes 4 times longer to make that gray transition and as a result in the real world it can be seen easy on games that require you to move swiftly while maintaining focus, that is what Mim3tic was trying to say. I can't believe people are now claiming that IPS is just as fast as a gaming grade TN panel. You want the viewing angles and color accuracy of an IPS you have to give something up in return(Speed)

IPS is my #1 choice for Desktop use, I have a $1000 IPS panel sitting here. But when it comes to gaming I am only aware of 2 IPS panels(expensive ones) that were ever made that were capable of close to TN speeds.
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i have the vw 24" asus model...it is a big jump from 20" to 24"...you cant go wrong with this monitor.
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I think the OP should just go to an electronics store and lookat 2ms and 8ms side by side and decide that way.
    
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