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Hello everyone,

First let me say that I love these forums and that they have been and will continue to be the most crucial part in helping me learn to WC .

With that said, I am building my first loop! And I would like some help to make sure I am thinking of everything, because I am extremely nervous about this .

Please keep comments of preference to a minimum, I just want to know if I'm missing anything, or if there is an obviously better part for my loop.

I'm aiming for a pretty quite but cold loop, as I plan to do some decent overclocking. The CPU and GPU will be WC.

I plan on going Res>Pump>Rad>CPU>GPU>Res... though I don't know if it would be better to place the Rad before or after the CPU and GPU... comments would be appreciated.

So here are the parts: (and these are for the system in my sig)

Resevoir: XSPC Dual 5.25" Bay Res = $39.95

Radiator: Black Ice GTX360 = $108.95

Fans: 3x Scythe Gentle Typhoon 120mm (1850RPM) = $47.85

Pump: Swiftech MCP355 = $64.99

Pump Top: XSPC DDC Top = $17.05

CPU Block: EK Supreme HF Full Nickel = $87.95

GPU Block: EK-FC580-Acetal+Nickel = $108.95

Tubing: 5m UV Orange 3/8 ID 1/2 OD = $49.90

Anti-Kink Coil: 3x 40" 1/2 OD Anti-Kink Coil (UV Blue) = $11.97

Fittings: 12x DD Fat Boy G1/4 Fittings 3/8 Barb = $30.00

Clamps: 20x Plastic Tubing Clamps - Black = $8.00

Resevoir Adapter: XSPC M20x1.5mm to G1/4" Adapter = $4.95

Fill Port: Danger Den Fillport - Black = $13.99

Biocide: 2x PT Nuke (I was getting this from frozencpu.com but I can't seem to find where to buy it now...)

Here is a pic of basically how I want to set up the loop (LoL all you want at my lazy/crappy Paint skills ;P):


The one thing I am totally unsure about is whether I should put my 3x 120 fans above or below my Rad to push or pull??? Any suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated!

Thanks in advance!
Edited by Zorten - 1/31/11 at 5:10pm
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That res is going to have to be lowered in your drive bays. The 360 mm radiator actually goes into the drive bay area when mounted and you wont have enough space to include the res directly in front of it.

Also, distilled water and a killcoil will save you money while doing a better job cooling
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That res is going to have to be lowered in your drive bays. The 360 mm radiator actually goes into the drive bay area when mounted and you wont have enough space to include the res directly in front of it.
ICIC, It won't block the fillport on the top of the HAF932 though will it? I'll still be able to run tubing down to the res?

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Also, distilled water and a killcoil will save you money while doing a better job cooling
I planned on using distilled water, i figured I could buy it at a store around me somewhere. I was of the understanding that you just put a few drops of PT Nuke in loop and it was the same as the coil. But I could coil with a coil just as easily.
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PT-Nuke and distilled is fine.

Why not combine the pump/reservoir/pump top by getting the XSPC Dual Bay Reservoir For Laing DDC One? It will perform similarly to the combo you had listed earlier with a reduced level of complexity and cost.

Finally if you switch to 7/16" ID 5/8" OD Tubing and 1/2" barbs you won't even need hose clamps as the tubing will go so tightly over the barb. This thicker walled tubing will also be much more resistant to kinks.
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Why not combine the pump/reservoir/pump top by getting the XSPC Dual Bay Reservoir For Laing DDC One? It will perform similarly to the combo you had listed earlier with a reduced level of complexity and cost.
I want to put the pump at the bottom of the case for easier draining, that way i can just tilt the case a little, unplug the pump and drain.

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Finally if you switch to 7/16" ID 5/8" OD Tubing and 1/2" barbs you won't even need hose clamps as the tubing will go so tightly over the barb. This thicker walled tubing will also be much more resistant to kinks.
That was my original design, and I would still love to do that, but I can't find UV Orange 7/16" tubing short of buying overseas and paying a buttload for shipping.
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Your going to have some crazy long runs. I'd put the pump in the bays if you can and then put a quick disconnect in your tubing to drain. I think that would make it look cleaner.

If you had the pump mounted higher and went pump -> cpu -> gpu -> rad -> res I think you would have shorter runs. Res -> Pump -> rad will be crazy long.
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You will have to put the reservoir 2 bays down...just like previously suggested.
And your runs will be fine with the pump and top you are getting - MCP355 + top is a beast!

It might be worth considering getting the XSPC reservoir that is integrates with the MCP355. If you do that, then add a quick disconnect at the end of the tubing between the GPU and Reservoir. You can disconnect it at the reservoir and and let the tubing hang out your case as it will become the lowest point of the loop.

Hope that made sense.
    
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You will have to put the reservoir 2 bays down...just like previously suggested.
And your runs will be fine with the pump and top you are getting - MCP355 + top is a beast!

It might be worth considering getting the XSPC reservoir that is integrates with the MCP355. If you do that, then add a quick disconnect at the end of the tubing between the GPU and Reservoir. You can disconnect it at the reservoir and and let the tubing hang out your case as it will become the lowest point of the loop.

Hope that made sense.
Okay, let me try to make sense of this... by a quick disconnect, are you talking about like a compression fitting connecting the GPU to the Res?

Also, with losing the top 2 bays, should I have enough room for 2 CD drives still? I don't really need 2, but I have 2 .
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This would go at the end of the tubing:
http://www.koolance.com/water-coolin...product_id=879
And this would go directly in the back of the reservoir
http://www.koolance.com/water-coolin...product_id=888

Unfortunately i dont think any optical drive will fit up there. Most end up putting fan controllers because they arent very deep. Optical drives are ver deep - deeper than the reservoir.
    
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Anti-Corrosive: 2x PT Nuke (I was getting this from frozencpu.com but I can't seem to find where to buy it now...)
PT nuke is not anti-corrosive. It is a biocide. Just like silver coils. You do not need 2 bottles. One bottle will probably be good for your life. You can buy it from:

http://store.yahoo.com/yhst-65556269...eptpcobi1.html

You need anti corrosive only and only when you mix copper / nickel / brass with aluminium. You can easily avoid doing this anyway and you should.

You can just get a DDC top reservoir. I don't really think you need a drain system if you are only draining for cleaning up once-twice a year.
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