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post #21 of 46
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Originally Posted by Viridian View Post
Then sod off back to consoles. Because receiving a crappy console port on a game that was originally a PC-only title is offensive and annoying. Jus sayin.
Originally a PC title. There is the issue, you are clinging onto history as a means of justification. It's a new world, consoles are the most popular means of playing games, they are the most profitable, they are the most cost efficient to develop for. History does nothing but distort your view of reality!

Certain games may have originally been on PC, but that does not mean they should be nowadays.
post #22 of 46
....Console gamers have no heart,real men kill with a keyboard..!

No demo no dice though,or at least some good youtube footage...
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Demos... People play these? I research my purchases enough before actually buying them to know if I'll like it or not, be this YouTube material, be this reviews on sites I frequent. The only possible reason I might have for a demo is to see if my system can run it.
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It's not the future of gaming, that's for sure. Technical specs yes, everything else... no.
Uh... decent controls? And the whole idea of a PC as an upgradeable platform - one can enjoy medium graphics on an outdated rig, while another can set the graphical settings to high on a fancy new rig. Consoles do not provide such flexibility. And again, controls. I mean you can argue that gamepad is somewhat better for 2d platformers, but for pretty much everything else it fails miserably when compared to keyboard and mouse. That's hands down the biggest problem with consoles. And, imo, that's why modern games that require a certain degree precision feel dumbed down and easy, it's the controls (or the apparent lack of them).
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I find my own "demo" when its released.
This is why
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History does nothing but distort your view of reality!
That is the most retarded thing you can say.

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Demos... People play these? I research my purchases enough before actually buying them to know if I'll like it or not, be this YouTube material, be this reviews on sites I frequent. The only possible reason I might have for a demo is to see if my system can run it.
Maybe its just you , but for the majority of the people surfing this site , we don't want to be open to media manipulation.
    
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Uh... decent controls? And the whole idea of a PC as an upgradeable platform - one can enjoy medium graphics on an outdated rig, while another can set the graphical settings to high on a fancy new rig. Consoles do not provide such flexibility. And again, controls. I mean you can argue that gamepad is somewhat better for 2d platformers, but for pretty much everything else it fails miserably when compared to keyboard and mouse. That's hands down the biggest problem with consoles. And, imo, that's why modern games that require a certain degree precision feel dumbed down and easy, it's the controls (or the apparent lack of them).
But, does that really relate to enjoyability. I mean, my friend is an avid CoD player on Xbox and when I see him play, he looks like he is having a lot of fun. He's played it on PC as well, but just prefers the ease of consoles and simplicity of a game pad. So, really, it comes down to personal preference in terms on input type.

As for flexibility and ability to upgrade, that is actually one major reason why PC gaming isn't as popular. The mainstream gamer isn't really interested in upgrading PC parts, doesn't have the time to do so or doesn't have the technical nous. You then have to take into consideration issues such as drivers not working, lag that requires patches to fix and random CTD's. Sure, consoles die, but when they go it's usually in one big bang and that is it. All other times it runs just as well, stick a disc in and join a game. The mainstream gamer just wants it to work which is a far cry from what PC gaming is (look at threads on this for example).

It's very similar to the iphone Vs an Android phone. For those who love badgering about flashing ROM's, overclocking, installing new software hacks then Android is brilliant. For the average Joe who wants a phone that just works well from the outset and doesn't particularly want to fiddle, they buy the iPhone. Consoles are a hassle free means to which average gamers can enjoy themselves. PC's are for technical enthusiasts who enjoy making the most out of a product and aren't worried about potential externalities.

In conclusion, branding one more fun than another is rather silly. It's all about choice and preference.
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This, though most games on Steam carry a demo.
I didn't recognise you with your new DP!

I feel like I've seen it somewhere before, though. What is it with Japanese people and leeks?
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I mean, my friend is an avid CoD player on Xbox and when I see him play, he looks like he is having a lot of fun
Well, yeah, but then there are old farts like me who played Doom, Heroes of M&M, Duke3D, Descent and all that gorgeous stuff back in the day and want something more than playing a dumbed down console title with a gamepad. I obviously understand that there are plenty of casual gamers out there, but what I'm saying is that there are also gamers with a little bit of experience who want something new, but the current publishers do not cater to this market properly.
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Well, yeah, but then there are old farts like me who played Doom, Heroes of M&M, Duke3D, Descent and all that gorgeous stuff back in the day and want something more than playing a dumbed down console title with a gamepad. I obviously understand that there are plenty of casual gamers out there, but what I'm saying is that there are also gamers with a little bit of experience who want something new, but the current publishers do not cater to this market properly.
Thing is, these dumbed down games are far more varied, better looking sounding, written etc... than your Doom. What you're doing is looking back through rose tinted glasses remembering when you really enjoyed games. The games have got better, but your interest has somewhat declined.

I do the same, with older games I remember (i'm only 22 though!). I was thinking "I remember having so much fun on that game, why don't they make them like that any more". So, I got a DOS emulator, went back and played it and actually, it was pretty rubbish.

What it made me realise was that games had got better, but my interest and sense of enjoyment had dwindled. I was remembering the "good old days". Just because you think games used to be amazing and "why can't they make them like that now", doesn't mean the quality has got worse. New gamers are entering the market and love things like CoD. Your enjoyment for gaming just isn't the same.
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