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The way I understand it, AMD's best case scenario has them launching bulldozer (as in, available for retail sale, not paper "launch"), around the same time that Intel will have this problem fully addressed and mostly resolved (March/April). However, given the lack of Engineering Samples for Bulldozer and typical product development cycles, we're probably looking more at Q3 launch, well after this becomes "old news", and worse yet, right around the time that Intel launches the High End Sandy Bridges (LGA2011).

Personally, I suspect Bulldozer will be a flop in comparison to its hype, and will once again be competing with intel solely on price/performance alone due to their inherent lack of ability to perform at the high end. Last thing they need is similar bugs springing up for them because they rushed it trying to take advantage of a QA blunder of the opposing team. If all goes well though, even if it does take them till Q3 to launch, it should be a killer Mainstream part; with high end bulldozers besting current SB's, but falling short of the LGA 2011 based SB's (yet beating those in price/performance). So, as exciting as it is, unless AMD delays again, it'll be business as usual. The real battle is actually at the bottom of the stack: Atom, Pentiums, and LLano.
We didn't see any ES', etc of Fermi even when we knew it was out in March, only SA kept us up to date...I believe its the same with BD.

And no, it won't live up to the hype, that's definitely true, whether thats to the level of the HD2900XT or to a very small level remains to be seen.

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People like to kicking around technology they don't own.
If I was in the market it wouldn't stop me from buy into SB.
Even if they don't own it, they can kick it around as much as they wish as long as they've seen appropriate benchmarks.

That said, I believe nearly all of the people complaining about SB vs Nehalem are forgetting 1155 is mainstream and 1366 is enthusiast/server, as well as not noticing that SB really pulls ahead due to its overclocking. (eg. 5Ghz on air?)

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Just in case anyone else is in this situation. I had my mobo (P8P67 Pro) die on me and I recieved an RMA number from newegg. I sent it in yesterday before the recall was announced. Originally, I was marked to recieve a replacement. When I called today, they very quickly said all replacements will be made into refunds....This is great (sarcasm) because I am getting my ram back and have the 2600K...but no motherboard and no easy way to get one. I will literally have to sell the chip and lose money just to be able to afford to go back to the setup I sold off to get SB.

If you RMA your board anytime soon, Do Not Expect To Get One Back.
Get a cheap used board, or even if you can find it, the ASRock P67 Pro3, it's a decent board.
    
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Just don't forget!

Resell values on the boards gonna suck. I mean... even a year from now and a guy says they have the new board without the bug I wouldn't touch it. Or says they have used the ports and have not had issues, I wouldn't touch it.

However if they have some sort of stamp on the board itself as proof, then maybe I'd consider it.
Meh, I'm not really worried about the resale value of the board.
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However if they have some sort of stamp on the board itself as proof, then maybe I'd consider it.
Id assume that the new boards will be stamped accordingly.
My board is a 1.0 so id assume the new one would be a 1.1 or 2.0 depending on how they work their numbering scheme.
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i'm so happy i'm with a good manufacturer i would be worried if i brought a biostar board
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i'm so happy i'm with a good manufacturer i would be worried if i brought a biostar board
Not that theres anything wrong with a good Biostar (ive run several in the past) but our Asus boards ARE subject to this as well.
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Not that theres anything wrong with a good Biostar (ive run several in the past) but our Asus boards ARE subject to this as well.
I think he meant on RMA or customer service level.
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Finally got an email from Newegg:

"Thank you for giving us the opportunity to serve you. Newegg has recently become aware of a design issue that is affecting recent models of Intel Sandy Bridge platform motherboards. We are working with Intel to identify the exact nature of this problem.

As always, Newegg remains 100% committed to our customers' total satisfaction. In keeping with our commitment to our customers, we are extending the return period for your motherboard by 90 days or until replacements become available from the manufacturer, whichever is greater. Intel expects to have a new revision of the P67 & H67 chipsets out around April, at which point first-run motherboards with this issue will need to be physically replaced in affected systems.

From a technical standpoint, the design issue can be bypassed fairly simply by not using the Serial ATA (SATA) ports that are affected. Your motherboard’s manual should identify your SATA ports by number, and at a minimum you should see ports 0-5 (6 ports in total) listed. Ports 0 and 1 are Sata Rev. III (6Gbps), and do not appear to be affected by this problem. Ports 2-5 are SATA Rev. II (3Gbps) and should not be used. For a thorough explanation of this hardware work-around, please refer to our video on YouTube:


If you choose to use the hardware work-around option, there is no need to contact us at this time. We have your information on record and will email you as soon as the replacements become available. If you would like to discuss this with our tech community or read up on the latest updates, please visit our EggXpert forum:
http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/682006.aspx

If none of the above options are suitable to your needs and you wish to return the board at this time for a full refund, please email us at intelsandybridge@newegg.com and include your sales order number so we can help you out with your return.

If you have any concerns, please contact Newegg Customer Service for further information and assistance.

Thank you for your support!

Sincerely,


Your Newegg.com Customer Service Team"
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A whole lot of fuss over nothing...

Oh noes, the sky is falling. Some legacy ports have a 5% chance of failing after 2-3 years...
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Finally got an email from Newegg:
Top notch service as always. I can only hope that other retailers offer similar terms.

My Gigabyte P67A-UD7 just arrived today from Superbiiz. Yesterday they asked me not to open the motherboard box until they have more information on the matter. Hopefully they'll let me use it now and RMA later.
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A whole lot of fuss over nothing...

Oh noes, the sky is falling. Some legacy ports have a 5% chance of failing after 2-3 years...
Legacy? SATA 3Gb/s is ubiquitous.

The issue is 5-15% failure rate measured at the 2-3 year points. This does not mean they fail at that point in time as they may have failed already. Intel notice the issue from real-world use after less than one month after release.
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