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Also, why should they hold off on a RAM review? The fix won't affect the CPU's memory controller.
Just my opinion because of consumer interests. If I was interested in building a new SB system, I will have forgotten about this review when the boards are back in the market and I'm buying the pieces to it. Hold off till close to the re-release dates, then the review is fresh in my mind.

Just looking at it from a marketing standpoint, not so much anything else.

Thanks for the clarification however. The shop they linked me too has boards still available. Had me all confused. Might be in due part of having only 4 hrs of sleep though.
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Legacy? SATA 3Gb/s is ubiquitous.

The issue is 5-15% failure rate measured at the 2-3 year points. This does not mean they fail at that point in time as they may have failed already. Intel notice the issue from real-world use after less than one month after release.
Sata2.0 is legacy. SSDs saturate them. Even Sata3.0 is becoming saturated with higher end SSDs.

Having to resend the data again isn't a big deal. Your internet does it all the time. It's only after 2-3 years that it becomes such a big issue that there's a 5% chance it "might" eventually stop working altogether. You won't notice it having to re-send the data within the first year, if it even happens at all...

People are blowing up over nothing. You'll get a free RMA in a month or hopefully a BIOS update. It really is a non-issue.
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Everyone keeps saying 2-3 years. That's only for average usage. But gamers and others that uses the drives on those ports excessively, will see it much faster than that.

And I beg your pardon but SATA 2 is not legacy until no new devices are available for them anymore. I have JUST gotten off IDE and don't need someone saying the ports I'm finally using are legacy already!
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Sata2.0 is legacy. SSDs saturate them. Even Sata3.0 is becoming saturated with higher end SSDs.

Having to resend the data again isn't a big deal. Your internet does it all the time. It's only after 2-3 years that it becomes such a big issue that there's a 5% chance it "might" eventually stop working altogether. You won't notice it having to re-send the data within the first year, if it even happens at all...

People are blowing up over nothing. You'll get a free RMA in a month or hopefully a BIOS update. It really is a non-issue.
SSDs may saturate them, but only one controller out at the moment doesn't use it, hardly a legacy port, and what about all the HDDs? They most certainly don't saturate it.
    
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Intel states it's estimated that 15 percent could be effected after 3 years.I realize any chance of failure is no good but honestly if it is only 15 percent then that means most motherboards will not experience any issues ever.Am I wrong about this?
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Sata2.0 is legacy. SSDs saturate them. Even Sata3.0 is becoming saturated with higher end SSDs.

Having to resend the data again isn't a big deal. Your internet does it all the time. It's only after 2-3 years that it becomes such a big issue that there's a 5% chance it "might" eventually stop working altogether. You won't notice it having to re-send the data within the first year, if it even happens at all...

People are blowing up over nothing. You'll get a free RMA in a month or hopefully a BIOS update. It really is a non-issue.
Not at all. SATA 3Gb/s is still ubiquitous and hardly legacy (of or pertaining to old or outdated computer hardware, software, or data that, while still functional, does not work well with up-to-date systems).

Having to increasingly resend data is an issue. At some point, the packets will be too corrupted. It works fine for the Internet since it is relatively high latency of 10-100ms. When talking about low-latency connections, resends hurt performance.

It is 5-15% failure rate after 2-3 years. This statistic does not tell the failure curve. For all we know, most of the failures occur in the first few months.

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Intel states it's estimated that 15 percent could be effected after 3 years.I realize any chance of failure is no good but honestly if it is only 15 percent then that means most motherboards will not experience any issues ever.Am I wrong about this?
That would be 15% in additional to the other causes of failure.

Let's say the average failure rate is 5%.... then this issue quadruples the rate to 20%.
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Not at all. SATA 3Gb/s is still ubiquitous and hardly legacy (of or pertaining to old or outdated computer hardware, software, or data that, while still functional, does not work well with up-to-date systems).

Having to increasingly resend data is an issue. At some point, the packets will be too corrupted. It works fine for the Internet since it is relatively high latency of 10-100ms. When talking about low-latency connections, resends hurt performance.

It is 5-15% failure rate after 2-3 years. This statistic does not tell the failure curve. For all we know, most of the failures occur in the first few months.
Just try to remember the bolded phrase. It hasn't even been a month yet. The "point" when it starts mattering will be a long time down the road. Did anyone mention that you'll get a free RMA yet? Why is anyone worrying?
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Just try to remember the bolded phrase. It hasn't even been a month yet. The "point" when it starts mattering will be a long time down the road. Did anyone mention that you'll get a free RMA yet? Why is anyone worrying?
If that is so.... then how come Intel noticed the abnormal number of failures only 3 weeks after launching? People were having corruption issues weeks after launch so some point may mean weeks and not months or years.
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If that is so.... then how come Intel noticed the abnormal number of failures only 3 weeks after launching? People were having corruption issues weeks after launch so some point may mean weeks and not months or years.
They were testing in much harder situations than most people run theirs in, but us OCers would probably get it faster than normal consumers.
    
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