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i found a good deal on a ref gtx 570. just wondering if ill be able to get a good oc under water with it.
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Probably, or probably not, totally depends on the individual card. But if you put it under water you can at least push the voltages a bit more and have more chance of getting a high OC.
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Yeah my question on reference GTX 570's was purley observational. I'm in a GTX 580 myself. I was just wondering how for the most part the reference 570's were doing. Obviously there's a little bit of stigma on their over volting / over clocking abilities and that any type of over volt, kills the cards VRM.

SO my question was purley out of curiosity as I'm new to Nvidia as of January and have been interested in learning on all the cards. 400 series 1st run FERMI and 500 series 2nd run FERMI.

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The attachment is my reference EVGA 570's, in SLI, at 920/1840/2250 @ 1.1v. You can see the max temps, they level off at 75C and 81C. I should add that this is at 20C/68F ambient temp. I keep the AC on when gaming, for this reason. Anyways, although I've only had the second 570 for a few weeks, I've had the first for over 4 months, and both are doing great at every voltage, including 1.1v, which I've began using more and more often. I had to minimize Metro so that's why you see the second card throttle back for one second before I took the pic. I used Metro, played it for 15-20 mins and then snapped it, just to show some specs and how everything's working.

So, I think that the reason this whole thread got a bunch of people nervous is because if someone's card blows, many are either #1. Contrary to what they say, they could have been ignoring/neglecting temps and they could have gotten too high, #2. It could have had something wrong with it, such as having been mis-handled or something, causing the card to malfunction, and although the card may not be working, the damage might not have anything to do with overclocking and the card isn't technically "blown", just simply not working, or #3. It was simply a bad chip and easily fried with even a small OC. I think 3 is the most popular reason, and its the reason why although not many companies besides EVGA come right out and say "Overclocking doesn't void the warranty", all companies RMA their cards because they know this happens sometimes, and if the BIOS wasn't flashed, they know you only went up to the max 1.1v, which they obviously consider safe because they will RMA the card if its under warranty.
A card dies and people want to complain or make it known, so they go on a thread like this. Which is fine. But what I mean is when someone that isn't signed up to this forum gets a 570 and it works perfectly, they wouldn't be motivated by frustration or anything to go out of their way to sign up to this site just to say "Yes I got one, I got what I paid for, it works fine, I'm content, nothing's wrong, etc..". So even if we hear about 100 "blown" cards on this thread, first of all they're probably not all due to ONLY overclocking (ignored temps, something else wrong, or just a faulty card), and even if all 100 or so we hear about really are blown, that's still only a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of the tens of thousands of cards out there. We don't hear about all the ones that have been working fine. So, I think that if anyone has actually dealt with a company that flat-out refused to RMA a card (after you cooked it and did not do anything else that might void the warranty) and the company claimed they wouldn't RMA because the card was overclocked at less-than/equal-to 1.1v, post the company and the specifics as a sort of warning for us. But unless a lot of people have that similar RMA-refusal experience with a specific company, then I think you should get the most out of what you paid for. Go up to 1.1v in games that need it, or as high of a voltage as temps will allow, and enjoy getting the most performance for what you spent, without worry Basically, a 0.01% chance of frying the card shouldn't deter you.

(P.S.-In E-Leet, voltages are always off, and TmpIN1, the CPU Temp, is always 10C hotter than what CPU really is. E-Leet does this for some reason and just with the CPU temp, I've tested this with BIOS and other programs, always exactly 10C hotter, but I just still use E-Leet because its a nice small window and I've gotten used to it.)

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Mine have been working fine from day one! Bought them back in march
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Your 570 has a non reference PCB with 6+2 phases (good). The ones that died were reference PCBs with 4+2 phases (bad). Yes, Kombustor is based off of Furmark.
I just purchased a Gigabyte GTX 570 SoC Windforce3 since I wanted a top quality 570 and this was the most expensive one on the market. Should I be afraid or does it have non reference PCB?
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I just purchased a Gigabyte GTX 570 SoC Windforce3 since I wanted a top quality 570 and this was the most expensive one on the market. Should I be afraid or does it have non reference PCB?
The power circuit is the same as on the reference card and consists of a 4-phase GPU voltage regulator and a 2-phase memory voltage regulator.

If you don't OC your card beyond limitations you'll be fine. A good place to learn about over clocking your 570 would be from other 570 owners here at GTX 570 overclocking thread.

A lot of these cards that had issues were due to the fact the person doing the OC took it beyond voltage limits to get higher over clock from what I've gathered.

After some time of being out, and the knowledge of the cards capabilities have grown it's pretty much non-exisistent. If you notice by reading this thread.

Here are also a couple of reviews I've found about your card and one that's a comparison review of a few cards with the Gigabyte.

GeForce GTX 570 Overclocking Roundup

GIGABYTE GTX570 Super Overclock Edition

GV-N570OC-13I

Good luck, I'm sure your going to enjoy your card. It can handle gaming as of today easily and a powerful single card solution. Welcome to OCN and take care.

PS. If you find time and / or plan on hanging around go to your BIO and in 'edit systems' update it with all your current components. Have fun!
     
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The power circuit is the same as on the reference card and consists of a 4-phase GPU voltage regulator and a 2-phase memory voltage regulator.
Sorry but you're mistaken. The Gigabyte GTX 570 OC with the Windforce3X cooler has a reference PCB. The SOC (Super OverClock), as you can see here has a custom PCB with 10+2 phase VRMs.
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I wonder if a Reference GTX 570 has the same PCB components than a GTX 580 reference card.

The absolute max limit in my card is 900 core clock wiith 1.150 voltage,so far so good.

It is possible that the GTX 580 supports more streen in their VRM's?
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I'm sorry for bumping this thread, but I would love to hear an advice.

On monday I was going to order new rig and I wanted to buy GTX570 OR Radeon HD6970. I was more in favour of 570 (due to not playing with uber res) but then I read that they are prone to dying and come here to ask for help.
But here is the thing, I DO NOT want to overclock at all or mess with the voltages.
Should I be ok on stock everything with 570 or I would be better off with HD6970? At my place they have basically the exact same price.

If someone could give me an advice, I would greatly appreciate it.
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