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Originally Posted by AliceInChains;13032920 
i take it these are all reference design cards that are dying?

I just posted on your thread, but....

All of these are cards with reference PCB's and thus the same 4+2 power phase design, but some have non-reference cooling such as the Twin Frozrs.
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Originally Posted by bleda76;12888731 
Just want to share my dead 570 experience. I bought the Gigabyte GTX 570 OC Windforce 3x (GV-N570OC-13I) last friday. It comes factory overclocked @ 780 core/1560 shader/1900 memory. Default voltage is 1.00V. With these settings it worked fine under Furmak, Kombuster, Unigine and Far Cray 2 ( i never disabled OCP).

Then overclocked it to 850/1700/2250 keeping the voltage at default 1.00V and in less than 3 minutes during furmark run my card died (temps were 65-67 degrees. I didnt check the PCB since I will RMA it today. But im sure its a burnt VRM.

From the looks of it I am the only one whose card died at factory default voltage of 1.00 (with OCP on) despite having the Windforce 3x custom cooler. So I did quite alot of research and found out that (between custom 570s);

- Gigabyte 570 OC Windorce 3x and MSI 570 TwinFrozr II both use the reference PCB design with 6 phase VRM (4 for GPU and 2 for memory). They simply put a custom cooler on top. MSI cards have similar incidents reported
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?t=3072063

- Gainward 570 Phantom, Gainward 570 GS Goes Like Hell, Palit 570 Sonic Platinum all have 8 phase VRMs (6 GPU and 2 memory). Same amount with the GTX 580. All these cards have identical PCB since they belong to the same graphics card manufacturer group
http://images.bit-tech.net/content_images/2011/02/gainward-geforce-gtx-570-phantom-review/gtx570-phantom-1b.jpg

- Asus GTX570 DirectCU II also has 8 phase VRMs (6 GPU and 2 memory)
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_570_Direct_Cu_II/images/front.jpg

And so far I havent seen similar incidents with any of these cards on the net. Which really brings me to the conclusion that this problem is only for the reference design 570 PCB with insufficient VRM phases. Based on the custom cooling abilites of my card, I am positive that temps have got nothing to do with this problem.

FYI, the GTX 590 has 10 GPU VRMs (5 per GPU) and already someone has blown one. Clearly 6 phase looks like the best solution since GTX 580 seems to working fine for everyone.

If I can get the RMA replacement, I will try to get a Gainward 570 Phantom instead and I will keep you posted on how it goes.


Quoted and bolded incase people missed it!

Great post btw man +rep
Edited by Freiya - 4/7/11 at 12:49am
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^

The links for the pcb's in your quote broke some how yet still work in the original post ^^
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lol Google "dead GTX 590".

Suckers blowing up like fireworks.

lachen.gif Now nVidia is releasing drivers that downclock the poo out of the card in an attempt to save GPUs. These 4 phases GPUs huge mistake. Fermi was like sliding down a water park slide without water. These 570 and 590 designs are like someone just jumping off a building. Suicide....

Some links for fun:

http://www.totalpcgaming.com/latest-pc-news/nvidia%E2%80%99s-gtx-590-problems-persist/

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1596174

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=196244
    
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Sad thread indeed. Up until I read this I was running 860 MHz on 1.05 something volts. Not I am at 797 MHz no voltage bump. -5 average FPS in most games for a card that wont fry itself = worth it. I was never a big OCer on video cards but I am a tad POd that I bought an awesome card, recommended by TTLC as the best for my money. This was in January though. I might end up selling it and buying a MSI GTX 480 Lightning.
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nope unfortunately gigabyte windforce 3x uses the reference design and has the same problem. i had one and it blew the first day with stock voltage.
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Originally Posted by bleda76;12888731 
Just want to share my dead 570 experience. I bought the Gigabyte GTX 570 OC Windforce 3x (GV-N570OC-13I) last friday. It comes factory overclocked @ 780 core/1560 shader/1900 memory. Default voltage is 1.00V. With these settings it worked fine under Furmak, Kombuster, Unigine and Far Cray 2 ( i never disabled OCP).

Then overclocked it to 850/1700/2250 keeping the voltage at default 1.00V and in less than 3 minutes during furmark run my card died (temps were 65-67 degrees. I didnt check the PCB since I will RMA it today. But im sure its a burnt VRM.

From the looks of it I am the only one whose card died at factory default voltage of 1.00 (with OCP on) despite having the Windforce 3x custom cooler. So I did quite alot of research and found out that (between custom 570s);

- Gigabyte 570 OC Windorce 3x and MSI 570 TwinFrozr II both use the reference PCB design with 6 phase VRM (4 for GPU and 2 for memory). They simply put a custom cooler on top. MSI cards have similar incidents reported
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?t=3072063

- Gainward 570 Phantom, Gainward 570 GS Goes Like Hell, Palit 570 Sonic Platinum all have 8 phase VRMs (6 GPU and 2 memory). Same amount with the GTX 580. All these cards have identical PCB since they belong to the same graphics card manufacturer group
http://images.bit-tech.net/content_images/2011/02/gainward-geforce-gtx-570-phantom-review/gtx570-phantom-1b.jpg

- Asus GTX570 DirectCU II also has 8 phase VRMs (6 GPU and 2 memory)
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_570_Direct_Cu_II/images/front.jpg

And so far I havent seen similar incidents with any of these cards on the net. Which really brings me to the conclusion that this problem is only for the reference design 570 PCB with insufficient VRM phases. Based on the custom cooling abilites of my card, I am positive that temps have got nothing to do with this problem.

FYI, the GTX 590 has 10 GPU VRMs (5 per GPU) and already someone has blown one. Clearly 6 phase looks like the best solution since GTX 580 seems to working fine for everyone.

If I can get the RMA replacement, I will try to get a Gainward 570 Phantom instead and I will keep you posted on how it goes.

Ok so i received credit for my dead gigabyte windforce 3x and got a gainward gtx 570 phantom instead. I have been using it for 2 weeks now. It comes with factory volt of 1.038v. I have been playing with the volts from 1.00v to its max 1.15v. Max overclock so far is 900MHz @ 1.15v. I have tried furmark 1.9 with xtreme burn in for 30 minutes at different speeds an voltages and so far no issues at all (it is the same furmark settings which killed my previous card in 3 minutes). I have to admit I have been very scared the first couple of days but now I have full confidence with the new card. Time will tell but I believe the extra VRMs on this card definitely makes a huge difference.

Please dont get scared to buy the gtx 570 just because some of us had bad experiences. I honestly think it is an awsome card and worth the money. Just be careful with the overclocking and stay clear from extreme benchmark and stress testing if you have a reference design wink.gif

Also MSI has already replaced their high end AMD Twin Frozr II cards with new Twin Frozr III coolers. They are now updating their 5xx series nvidia range (will be sold as lightning series). First model is the 580 and they have added an extra 2 VRMs quitely on top of the already strong 580 design. Which makes me believe that their 570 version might have a VRM upgrade too. so watch the new 570 from MSI when it comes out.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=268825
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I too am looking for a new video card upgrade (my hawk 460 is starting to show its age especially with Metro 2033 w/ DOF and Tesselation, and maxed Civ 5). This 570 looks the best...and from bleda76's post the most stable in terms of NOT melting your face would be the ASUS directCUII and Gainward phantom cards. This just narrowed my card choice even further smile.gif
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Yep. I believe Gigabyte's Windforce x3 card is safe as well.

It's only been reference cards and a couple Twin Frozr IIs (same vrms, no cooling) from what I've seen.


nope unfortunately gigabyte windforce 3x uses the reference design and has the same problem. i had one and it blew the first day with stock voltage.
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