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I was so set on buying an EVGA Superclocked 570, but after reading this thread I'm completely thrown off.

I wanted to buy the EVGA because of the reputation they have and also because of the perks (lifetime warranty, free 3dmark11, good overclocks).

Now I'm debating if I should still buy one just because of all the problems people have been having. My second choice would be the Asus DCII 570...

Ugh, can anyone give me a second opinion? I want a card that will definitely OC well. I bought a 5870 a year ago and this thing won't OC at all and I've been mad ever since. I don't want another overclocking dud again or I will be really upset.
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I'd grab the DCII or the TFIII. Most GTX 570's seem to hit very similar overclocks (925-950 at 1.1V).
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post #733 of 1259
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Originally Posted by xxbassplayerxx View Post
I'd grab the DCII or the TFIII. Most GTX 570's seem to hit very similar overclocks (925-950 at 1.1V).
Is it the general consensus that the issue with these cards dying had to do with the reference 6 Phase VRMs?

Sorry if the answer was posted somewhere in the thread, I just want to make sure before I commit to a purchase.

Edit: Yeah looks as if that is the issue. Guess I have no choice but to get the Asus or MSI. I hope you're right about all of them OC'ing pretty well, because in a review I read that they could only get their DCII to 780mhz or something to the core, which is pathetic.
Edited by gl0ry - 4/16/11 at 8:57pm
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post #734 of 1259
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What voltage did they use for that? Most will do upwards of 800 at stock.
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post #735 of 1259
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Is it the general consensus that the issue with these cards dying had to do with the reference 6 Phase VRMs?

Sorry if the answer was posted somewhere in the thread, I just want to make sure before I commit to a purchase.

Edit: Yeah looks as if that is the issue. Guess I have no choice but to get the Asus or MSI. I hope you're right about all of them OC'ing pretty well, because in a review I read that they could only get their DCII to 780mhz or something to the core, which is pathetic.
We dont know for sure if the number of VRMs help but we believe it does. But so far cards with additional VRMs don't seems to have the same problem. The 580 has 6VRMs for GPU and they dont have any issues either.

That review is most probably using default voltage for overclocking so 780MHz is very normal. If you want to cross 800MHz you will need to increase the voltage. each card has a different default voltage. Some of them will let you increase it to 1.1V (I believe DCII has this limit) some of them will give you 1.15V. nevertheless 1.1V should easily take you to 900MHz. I understand Gainward cards are not available in north america (not sure where you are from). If thats the case I recommend the DCII. I replaced my stock card (after it died) with Gainward 570 Phantom (has additional VRMs like the DCII) and so far have no problems with it (running 900MHz @ 1.1V)
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We dont know for sure if the number of VRMs help but we believe it does. But so far cards with additional VRMs don't seems to have the same problem. The 580 has 6VRMs for GPU and they dont have any issues either.

That review is most probably using default voltage for overclocking so 780MHz is very normal. If you want to cross 800MHz you will need to increase the voltage. each card has a different default voltage. Some of them will let you increase it to 1.1V (I believe DCII has this limit) some of them will give you 1.15V. nevertheless 1.1V should easily take you to 900MHz. I understand Gainward cards are not available in north america (not sure where you are from). If thats the case I recommend the DCII. I replaced my stock card (after it died) with Gainward 570 Phantom (has additional VRMs like the DCII) and so far have no problems with it (running 900MHz @ 1.1V)
Excellent, Thanks for your reply. I still wanted to get the EVGA just based on how everyone seems to love that company so much, but I've always been an Asus or MSI person in the past.

Guess I'll have to now decide on which one I want more, leaning towards the Asus DCII
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Is it the general consensus that the issue with these cards dying had to do with the reference 6 Phase VRMs?

Sorry if the answer was posted somewhere in the thread, I just want to make sure before I commit to a purchase.

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my DC2 is at 950 core @ 1.15 volts
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My 570 died at stock. It could be a bad batch of VRMs.
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my DC2 is at 950 core @ 1.15 volts
I thought the max was 1.1 without bios flashing? What exactly is the max?
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I thought the max was 1.1 without bios flashing? What exactly is the max?
Some cards have higher voltage limit than reference cards. My new Asus 580 Voltage Tweak can go up to 1.213v.
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