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Stop petitions, and STOP PAYING THE ISP!!!
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Originally Posted by EvanPitts View Post
It's the same in the Cellular market, where is is the same game with the same players, and where major, world leading companies are excluded by special regulations. The only way we got Wind was because it was just too embarassing for the regulators to keep them out. But then, Canadians can forget about going to the Emirates, because our airports are too hoidy-toidy to let Emirates land two planes a week - got to keep our Air industry in the hands of the money grubbers at Air Canada, where it is all about the worst, most abusive service possible - and the only company where it is cheaper and faster to go to Buffalo and jump on a plane to Korea, than it is to use a domestic flight that is less than two hours...



AT&T was turning a good profit, and was building market share, but because their cellular service was so superior to that of the domestic providers - the CRTC jerked their licenses back, and then AT&T just left and sold it to Rogers, which turned it into a steaming pile of garbage. I don't blame AT&T for leaving, they just can't afford all of the payola it takes to become one of the two players.

And this isn't one incident, the regulators also forced Virgin out of business - and how they are just a shill name for Bell, and are trying to get all of the old Virgin users off of the affordable plans, and into the stuff that is three times as expensive but with a tenth the quality.



We don't have much choice, our parties practice the same glad handling and engage in the same corruption, and really, follow the same overall ideology - to put the screws on the taxpayers by making them pay more taxes for less benefit. At least in the US, local areas gain benefit from the pork barrel - in Canada, all that cash ends up in the Caymans or wasted on steak dinners coated with caviar dipped in booze...
Very true

Although from what I've read, AT&T was turning a profit but it kept being eaten away by massive taxes and all sorts of surcharges for being non-Canadian, just like Foreign vs Local Tuition for students. I'm not sure about the latter though. What I do know is that for an area that has less population then some states and a lot more regulation it wasn't worth it staying in Canada. It was better for them to just invest in there own infrastructure in remote areas, improve service and go after more market share.


So solution for Canadians or permanent residents like me is to support someone politically who will deregulate markets to some extent and allow major U.S. players to enter the game.
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None of this better happen to the U.S. or heck the individual states and cities... this is sad.
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The problem is not usage based billing itslef, it's just the profit margin, at $2,50 per GB, that is between 8500% and 40000%. Plus the actual profit from paying the most expensive internet in the world.
I'm not exactly sure what you're referring to, but if you are talking about an overage penalty, then the point of that is mostly to discourage people from going over their cap. If you know you will go over, you would upgrade to a higher plan (which would be a lot cheaper than paying the $2.5/GB).

But yea, the internets in Canada are not cheap.
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Can anyone get on the CRTC website? I'm starting to wonder if they got DDOS'd.
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Welcome, to Australia. Where 100GB a month is 100 dollars a month.
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Only in Canada... ever wonder why Bell is forcing a 25GB cap? Its because Bell and CTV are merging, and its Bells attempt to make sure people watch CTV and not download TV shows or other content they may show on CTV. I wouldnt be surprised to see this shrink even lower once the merger goes through.
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Sure, except it is an essential in this age. I would agree with your point, if there is a free market in place where companies can compete for business. But in Canada, we do not have a free market, and the tiny handful of players are all in collusion, while the CRTC engages in their own perverted form of self-agrandizement and see themselves as dictators who can ignore the law.

We need protests - and not just because of outrageous fees for Internet, but on a whole host of problems, like all of the rip-offs that our elected officials engage in, like robbing widows of their pension money, or telling people they have to die of cancer because some executive wants to cram a million and a half in their wallet every year while on the free steak dinner plan...
lol, stop making sense please +REP for a good response

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Can anyone get on the CRTC website? I'm starting to wonder if they got DDOS'd.
I can, have been trying for a while. It's quite possible they got DDOS'd, serves them right for their stupid decision
    
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Unlimited internet is not a right . The companies have a right to charge for it as much as they want. Protesting is pointless. You don't like their internet? Don't subscribe. Problem solved.
Are you stupid or what? It's not just some of the ISP's they all have these ****ty prices now. The only option is to leave this goddamn country
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Are you stupid or what? It's not just some of the ISP's they all have these ****ty prices now. The only option is to leave this goddamn country
Moving to the US won't help much, I'm sure this will be happening within a year or so here most likely.
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