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Any Canadians here watch George Burger talking with Kevin Oleary on CBC this evening?

...and his golden comment on the article in the national post. This man is a pitbull - it's about time we see someone with the balls to call out and intellectually rape the incumbents. I can't wait to see him chew through a few more debates.
That's one of the most retarded articles I've ever read. Who the **** would hire someone this dumb and let him write about things he doesn't know anything about?

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Today, for the same $45 (less in constant dollars) user get 125 GB of monthly downloads at between 10 and 15 megabytes per second. That amounts to combined volume and speed thousands of times greater at less cost.

Pay for use is the right policy. And $45 dollars gets a lot of use — dozens of high-definition moves and more than 30,000 iTunes.
What the hell is "30,000 iTunes"?!?!?! And perhaps he's just blind but the cap is going to be at 25Gb and not at 125GB.

Edit: Ok i just watched that...So much bull**** from that Bell dude & O'Leary.
Edited by Squirrel - 2/1/11 at 11:32pm
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That's one of the most retarded articles I've ever read. Who the **** would hire someone this dumb and let him write about things he doesn't know anything about?
Someone who is being paid by you-know-who. I think the issue went so long unnoticed because all these papers and television companies are owned or have ties to Bell and Rogers. You'll see huge bias or no mention of it at all.

EDIT: I just have to quote his post from the article in full. Reading it gives me a huge grin

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Originally Posted by George Burger, Teksavvy PR
Hello Terry,

When I submitted the piece that you refused to print providing a different point of view about internet service regulation than that expressed by you and John Fund, I was not involved with TekSavvy. I am now. I am calling you out. You have absoilutely no leg to stand on intellectually and I challenge you to put your reputation where your mouth is. I will take you on anytime anyplace to debate this issue and show you up to be either a Bell lackey or a blinkered free market automaton who learned nothing from the near-crash of 2008. Step up or shut up.

To be fair, here is a link to my "debate" with Kevin O'Leary tonight. I used him, and I will use you.But I thought I would give you a bit of a head's up. You will need it.

tinyurl.com/4utedqk

Check it out at the 35 minute mark.

Best regards

George Burger

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Yeah, Shaw had a "Beta Test" in Edmonton a few months back. REALLY? a test, as if everyone is going to embrace this.

Now my American friends really mean it now, when they say: Canada, first World Country... Third World Internet (or is it even 3rd world? I think you can get better plans in Nigeria. Hmm... maybe 5'th).
It wasn't even a "test". I signed up for Shaw two years ago when I moved out to Edmonton, and it was for the 250GB-cap Extreme package. I NEVER, repeat, NEVER got a single note, phonecall, letter, message, courier, pigeon informing me that I was part of a "usage test" and that my cap was being reduced to 175GB.

I currently use 350GB legally a month, because I have three people in my household, and we all use Netflix/surf/game/etc. I receive the bill from Shaw in a couple days, and will be calling up to cancel once this new plan is put into effect. I will not be paying what I owe them either.

I only see it as fair. Cut my service and charge me more? I don't think so.
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That's one of the most retarded articles I've ever read. Who the **** would hire someone this dumb and let him write about things he doesn't know anything about?



What the hell is "30,000 iTunes"?!?!?! And perhaps he's just blind but the cap is going to be at 25Gb and not at 125GB.

Edit: Ok i just watched that...So much bull**** from that Bell dude & O'Leary.
I like the part where he says that 10-15Mbit with a 125GB cap (telus, convenient he picks the only major ISP that didn't drop caps or start charging extra) is thousands of times more speed and volume than 2Mbit and 2GB cap.

... 10 times faster and 60 times the capacity is thousands? Good on telus for their continuing upgrades to their service. But the guy is flat out wrong there.

The other issue is the network obviously isn't able to handle customers actually using the rated speed. So why bother giving them credit? Selling someone 15Mbit and then capping the download so they can't actually use it (currently I can max my connection 17 hours a month before I hit the 125GB limit. If I was on say, a 7.5 Mbit/25GB teksavvy connection then it would be around 7.).

Continuing this train of though, assuming a 30 day month and a 125GB cap...
2,592,000 seconds
1000 Gbits

... .4 Mbits per second average download rate.

random, and really meaningless. But I'll hold off on the kudos for network upgrades until they break the 1 Mbit average download barrier.

Now OBVIOUSLY speed is more important. It's what people want, but still seems a bit ridiculous too me.

Why not just throttle people during peak hours, it accomplishes what they want. Limit it to people over the cap. Make the cap reasonable (125GB seems good enough). It sucks for heavy downloaders, but they can still download at night. Network congestion is eased since downloaders and normal users are forced on at different.
    
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i have a 3gb cap
though i usualy use 20-25gb
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Stop spewing nonsense.

Texas = 25MM

Canada = 36MM

I have sent emails and I'm already avoiding Bell like the plague (voting with my wallet).
Holy jesus is that right? 36 Million people in Canada? 61 Million in the UK.

3.4 people per ^2 km as opposed to 241 people per ^2 km. I love facts.
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Holy jesus is that right? 36 Million people in Canada? 61 Million in the UK.

3.4 people per ^2 km as opposed to 241 people per ^2 km. I love facts.
India: 1,191,939,000 people.
362.6 people per km^2
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Monaco, 16,923 people per sq km.

Edit: I'm getting off-topic. My original point was that it must be difficult to distribute broadband to that many people in such a huge area and still make a profit.
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Damn, i couldnt live with something like this, in the last month ive had 1.37TB traffic.
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Monaco, 16,923 people per sq km.

Edit: I'm getting off-topic. My original point was that it must be difficult to distribute broadband to that many people in such a huge area and still make a profit.
You know that in Canada, like over 90% of the population lives within 100mi of the U.S. Border. The rest is just wasted space with nobody in it.
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