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Ow. I hope the Canadians Give these isps a taste of what's good for em. Might help stop this cancer from spreading.
     
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$41.45 for 5/0.8 and 105GB?


Shaw has been charging $47 for 7.5/0.5 and 60GB for a while now.


So forgive me if I don't shed a tear for you.
FYI, I had the same plan. The 60GB cap was actually higher. Once the ruling went through to allow overages they dropped it down to 60GB and are charging a $2.00/GB overage fee.

Oh, another bit of BS by shaw. Phoned in and tried to get them to activate the monitoring tool. They refused. Said they don't do that until after the firs twarning. We had already decided to cancel at that point, I was just going to see if I could stay under the cap.

After talking to their rep, I decided to say screw them and download anything I could untilt he account went away.
    
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I have a 60gb cap and I find it utterly ridiculous. If this happens, I will definitely look into investing into a modded modem. The same thing will happen to me that happened to video games. Having an xbox360, i got tired of paying $60 for mediocre games, so I decided to pirate all games except for ones worth the $60. If games where $30, I would not pirate at all. So pretty much, give me decent internet at a decent price and I will pay. Give me crappy internet at a ridiculous price, I will not pay.
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you only get 25GB?

i would more country.
    
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Unlimited internet is not a right . The companies have a right to charge for it as much as they want. Protesting is pointless. You don't like their internet? Don't subscribe. Problem solved.
It's not a right...true.

However when they've been charging you for years to "pay for infrastructure and upgrades", isn't it fair play to expect them to actually pay to put in new infrastructure and upgrades?

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Nah, rather protest.
Please do so, and write your elected officials.

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Originally Posted by 5entinel View Post
Internet aren't preveilges these days,it IS a right and a must have essential tool for any class citizen.You can't do your daily essentials, the biggest one,E-commerce.
Actually, internet isn't a right. It's a purchasable service. Just like phone. And, you can do e-commerce without having a computer. It's called internet-enabled mobile phone.

Or, you could just call and place the order through a customer service line.

By your reaction, you'd think this world had sprung from a cyberegg.

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Get your lighter, it's already done.

Already cancelled our shaw service and moved to telus.

Dropping the cap by 40GB a month and then charging $2.00/GB in overages.

Monopolistic BS. (well oligarchy I supppose).
Good on you

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Ow. I hope the Canadians Give these isps a taste of what's good for em. Might help stop this cancer from spreading.
Me too.

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FYI, I had the same plan. The 60GB cap was actually higher. Once the ruling went through to allow overages they dropped it down to 60GB and are charging a $2.00/GB overage fee.

Oh, another bit of BS by shaw. Phoned in and tried to get them to activate the monitoring tool. They refused. Said they don't do that until after the firs twarning. We had already decided to cancel at that point, I was just going to see if I could stay under the cap.

After talking to their rep, I decided to say screw them and download anything I could untilt he account went away.
Yeah, I called out BrightHouse networks once. They had a thing "move your service with you", so I said "I'm moving from here to there...and you offer service there. I want to keep my service." and they tried like heck to not let me. I finally told them...your advertising says I can. If you don't let me, I'll be contacting the state of Florida and filing a complaint.

They gave me the cheap rate real quick.
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FYI, I had the same plan. The 60GB cap was actually higher. Once the ruling went through to allow overages they dropped it down to 60GB and are charging a $2.00/GB overage fee.

Oh, another bit of BS by shaw. Phoned in and tried to get them to activate the monitoring tool. They refused. Said they don't do that until after the firs twarning. We had already decided to cancel at that point, I was just going to see if I could stay under the cap.

After talking to their rep, I decided to say screw them and download anything I could untilt he account went away.
Yea I noticed that too. I know a guy that works with Shaw. He managed to get us the extra sports channels for free so my mother never has to miss a Canucks game. I'm going to see what he can do.

Worst thing that happens is I upgrade to the 15Mbps service with 100GB. Its an extra $10, but even with Netflix and pir Steam downloads we've never gone above 100GB.
    
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And this is why blu-ray and boxed games won't disappear any time soon.
actually it's about the 6 dollar a night on demand movies.

My dad won't stop buying them.

I refuse to pay netflix a dime as long as their selection is such a joke, but 6 dollars for a night or 7.99 unlimited streaming for a month.

hmmm, what is the better deal there?

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Unlimited internet is not a right . The companies have a right to charge for it as much as they want. Protesting is pointless. You don't like their internet? Don't subscribe. Problem solved.
Ever heard of a monopoly?

Bell got this pushed through a useless council that is more intested in making sure we hear more nickelback and Bieber on the radio than actually protecting Canadians from getting ripped off. Now they are using their position in the market to drive their competitors out of business by making it incredibly expensive for anyone to actually access other services.

Netflix, can't use it because it's going to end up costing hundreds of dollars in overages.

Teksavvy is going from being as ISP that I would love to have (they are slow, but they also offer static IPs, unlimited plans, IPv6 support, etc...) to one that isn't worth the price because they have to pay bell.

In the west Shaw is joining in. As soon as they could they dropped their caps and are charging overages.

Telus are the only ones left, and they actually have overage charges listed on their plans, they just aren't enforcing them.

Oh but they do love to get you into a contract, rip you off, and then charge massive cancellation fees.


oh, and I agree. Internet isn't a right. It's a service, companies have every right to charge reasonable rates for it. Bell isn't doing that. They are using their position to rip people off and drive competitors out of business.

Citizens should be protected from monopolies. Particularly with something like internet access which is pretty much as close to a necessity as you can find now.
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Unlimited internet is not a right . The companies have a right to charge for it as much as they want. Protesting is pointless. You don't like their internet? Don't subscribe. Problem solved.
They are indeed a company just like any other. Problem is it seems theres only a handful of big shots the rest seem to be resellers.

Would you say the same thing if there was only 1-2 food distributor's that decided to jack up the cost price fix and lower the quantity. Food is certainly not a right, as there are millions starving.

In a market without much competition anything can happen, seems a bigger and bigger problem these days.
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Unlimited internet is not a right . The companies have a right to charge for it as much as they want. Protesting is pointless. You don't like their internet? Don't subscribe. Problem solved.
Sure, except it is an essential in this age. I would agree with your point, if there is a free market in place where companies can compete for business. But in Canada, we do not have a free market, and the tiny handful of players are all in collusion, while the CRTC engages in their own perverted form of self-agrandizement and see themselves as dictators who can ignore the law.

We need protests - and not just because of outrageous fees for Internet, but on a whole host of problems, like all of the rip-offs that our elected officials engage in, like robbing widows of their pension money, or telling people they have to die of cancer because some executive wants to cram a million and a half in their wallet every year while on the free steak dinner plan...
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Unlimited internet is not a right . The companies have a right to charge for it as much as they want. Protesting is pointless. You don't like their internet? Don't subscribe. Problem solved.
According to Finland it is.
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