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reading about some boot loaders, two different places to install them... partition boot sector or mbr

windows boot loader always does mbr... so... im wondering can you do something like... install grub in a partition boot sector and configure grub for several linux installs, and then edit the boot.ini file to point towards grub?

kinda just have like... two entries on the first boot loader, windows or linux, then if you choose linux, it brings up grub with fedora suse arch or ubuntu... thats kinda the idea

possible? i may just not be entirely understanding how it works
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Interesting concept actually. I have no idea if it would work, but I'd definitely be interested in knowing the answer. Anyone with more knowledge?
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That's how EasyBCD works. It's terrible.
    
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^ indeed, it's terrible. Honestly Grub can work for almost everything (doesn't really do OSX) and is easy to remove. I don't understand people's problems, literally I don't. It's so easy to re-install the MS bootloader with an install disc. You can also re-install grub(2) with a LiveCD (and apparently Win too), so no matter what you shouldn't fret over a bootloader. I'd be more worried about forgetting what partition number your formatting/working on (yes, even I do that ) than what MBR I'm working on.
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Yeah, no need to make things more complicated than they need to be.
    
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Greetz
And now for the opposing view. All my bootloaders (this box has 5) are redundant. I know this is less of an issue since LiveCDs have gotten so good, but it works, it's fast, and it's safe. I install every bootloader that will do so to root, and in most cases menu all the others. I install one to MBR and I actually also have a hidden 8MB partition with another bootloader. By the time you even find your CD I'm back up and running.

To be honest it is probably just habit from more primitive, less stable times, and I don't have to use it much anymore, but for as little work as it is to setup, it makes me grin whenever I've played too rough or too st00pid and lose one.
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well the thought process was kinda like...

linux isnt as terrible about boot loaders as windows is when it re installs

so keep the windows one with a quick edit entry to add the linux one, wiping out windows and reinstalling it will only take adding the entry of the partition with grub on it rather than wiping out the mbr windows boot loader and installing grub again

cause i have wiped out grub reinstalling windows before and its just kind of a pain to go in and fix it where if it was just windows boot loader that pointed over to grub, just open up boot.ini and add the entry

and being a person who used to really enjoy overclocking my system (and will again when i get a newer one) re installing windows every now and then is just something i do to keep things fresh for bench marking
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post #8 of 18
I hate chaining boot loaders..

Swappable HDDs are very convenient.
I've also done things like installing grub on a CF card so that I can select CF card in the BIOS boot menu to boot Linux and hard disk to boot Windows.
Now I have Linux installed on a network drive so I pick PXE to boot Linux and hard disk to boot Windows.
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What is wrong with Grub/Grub2? I think they do fantastic jobs.
    
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well the thought process was kinda like...

linux isnt as terrible about boot loaders as windows is when it re installs

so keep the windows one with a quick edit entry to add the linux one, wiping out windows and reinstalling it will only take adding the entry of the partition with grub on it rather than wiping out the mbr windows boot loader and installing grub again

cause i have wiped out grub reinstalling windows before and its just kind of a pain to go in and fix it where if it was just windows boot loader that pointed over to grub, just open up boot.ini and add the entry

and being a person who used to really enjoy overclocking my system (and will again when i get a newer one) re installing windows every now and then is just something i do to keep things fresh for bench marking
Just install grub in both the MBR and the partition, so whenever you format for windows you can just use the one in the partition. Once you get linux booted again you can just re-install grub with a single command, hastle free. Or us something like an Arch install disc to boot from the hard drive, re-install grub via command hastle free..... Use a LiveCD to boot, just install grub to /dev/sdX and reboot! (I think, I don't ever run into that often).

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Re...tallingWindows

There is a solution to boot linux from Windows:
http://port25.technet.com/archive/20...M-Support.aspx

I'm guessing that is basically chainloading, which is still redundant. I'd much rather have one bootloader and a backup, that way you don't have to select linux, then wait to get into grub, then select the kernel you are running. I also like burg too, using the f key and just having two options with the ability for more if I need to.
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