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Hi all...jumped into watercooling. Thought I'd get a couple opinions, but I've spent several months looking at reviews and flowcharts until my eyes crossed. So, specs are below, and it'll be cooling my sig system. Tips and such are welcome. I imagine this will work nicely, but we'll see.

1x Laing D5 pump.
2x XSPC RS420 radiator (in parallel)
1x Swiftech MCR120
4x Ultra RPM 120x38mm (+ shrouds) Panaflo fans
2x Silverstone FM121 for the Swiftech rad.
Enzotech VRM block
Dangerden NB block
EK Supreme HF for CPU (plate 1)
EK HD6970 block (was lazy, and wanted better VRM temps than air cooling would provide)
Swiftech microres Rev.2.
Silver coil in the res (8" long model)
Will be using a slight glycol/detergent mix also as biocide with distilled water base.
All DD fatboy 1/2" fittings and tubing (except using Enzotech swivel fittings for XSPC rads due to location). Using Y splitters for the XSPC radiators to help with flow, especially due to the more restrictive Swiftech radiator.

This was partially price based, although I can admit to going a bit overboard ...first time for everything, I guess. The radiators are stacked, and will be pulling in fresh air, and exhausting it without ever touching components (ducted through the case). The Swiftech rad will be using exhaust air. The loop schematic is below:

Res->D5->XSPC rads->VRM and NB (parallel) -> CPU -> Swiftech rad ->GPU -> Res.

It hasn't gone together just yet, but those are the plans thus far. Mostly I'm trying to keep flow up because it's such a long loop. The XSPC stack will be as follows:

120x38mm fan -> 25mm shroud -> Rad1 ->120x38mm fan ->25mm shroud ->Rad2.

It's the perfect width for my case, and I should have about 4-5 mm of space, so I can use gaskets as well. Air will be filtered as well.

If I need more head pressure, I'll likely just add a DD CPX-pro before the D5 to compound the pressure.

Thoughts?
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post #2 of 16
Switch to the MCP 355 pump, it's more powerful.

Also, stacking radiators is a horrible idea, the second radiator does absolutely nothing because the air is already warmed up by the first radiator.
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All the reviews I saw showed the D5 as stronger. It's the same as an MCP 655.
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post #4 of 16
D5's are also more reliable, imo. Downside is they're just a bit on the chunky side.
post #5 of 16
D5 has a higher flow, MCP 355 has a higher presure. Pick your poison... how many 90 degree angles do you have? Might be the deciding factor.
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Actual elbows will be 1. Otherwise a few Y connectors, and overall very little bending. It's almost a completely vertical build. The other goal is to keep it inside the case.
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post #7 of 16
Well, the stock 655 is stronger than the 355. However when you put an aftermarket top for $20 onto the 355 is becomes an absolute beast, easily beating the 655.

Don't worry about elbows they don't offer any meaningful amount of restriction.

EDIT: An aftermarket top doesn't improve the 655 nearly as much as it's stock top is better:


Head Pressure in PSI at 1.0 GPM of flow (3.8 L/Min)
MCP355 + XSPC Top: 6.40 PSI
MCP655 + EK Top: 4.95 PSI
MCP655 Stock: 4.72 PSI
MCP355 Stock: 4.63 PSI
MCP350 + Top: 4.48 PSI
DCP 4.0 Stock: 3.83 PSI
XSPC 750: 3.59 PSI
MCP350: 3.25 PSI

Also, why are you running the radiators in parallel?
Edited by charliehorse55 - 1/31/11 at 10:05am
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post #8 of 16
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Where are you finding a top for $20? Also, for that price, wouldn't a DD CPX-Pro offer similar results to a replacement topped 355? Pressure vs. flow is what I was thinking.

My ideal solution was a dual D5 top with two pumps in serial...but I don't want to shell out $100 for a top alone, and then $65+ per pump.

Thanks for the input though...keep it comin'.
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XSPC Acrylic Top for Laing DDC


Also, the DD-CPX Pro is a rebrand of the Jingway 1200, so it will perform identically to the EK DCP 4.0 (Also a JP-1200 rebrand).

EDIT:

Also, what is an XSPC RS420 Radiator? XSPC has never made 140mm radiators.
Edited by charliehorse55 - 1/31/11 at 10:55am
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Whoops...fingers inverted the numbers. Meant RS240...dual 120mm model.
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