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An off-topic question for the watercooling guru's: Why do people get reservoir if it's not needed? Is there a benefit? I've been brainstorming ideas in my head for a new case but just wonder about the reservoir part.

As you state it's not necessary to run a res, but there are a few reasons why you might want one. I've run both res-less (just a T-line above the pump) and with a res. Not a WC-guru by any means but this is how I think of it:

- A big part of watercoolers watercool mainly for looks (or take the chance to make it pretty) and it seems a lot of people simply like the looks of having a res in their system
- Having a res makes it easier to fill and bleed out air out of your system
- Makes it easier to see your water level (esp. if you run colored tubing)
- Easier to fit drain and fill tubes

I have also read that in some instances having a big(ger) res makes the temps go down somewhat. This doesn't make sense to me though (once the water is warmed up at least, as it would be in a folding rig).

Personally I'd add a res if I have space for it simply because of the easy fill and drain. Having a res can clutter up a case too if you are space limited.
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You can also use a T-line if you want to...

If you were asking about the function of the res, you don't want the pump to suck air, but seeing as you already have a WC setup I guess you know that, was just making sure wink.gif
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An off-topic question for the watercooling guru's: Why do people get reservoir if it's not needed? Is there a benefit? I've been brainstorming ideas in my head for a new case but just wonder about the reservoir part.

As you state it's not necessary to run a res, but there are a few reasons why you might want one. I've run both res-less (just a T-line above the pump) and with a res. Not a WC-guru by any means but this is how I think of it:

- A big part of watercoolers watercool mainly for looks (or take the chance to make it pretty) and it seems a lot of people simply like the looks of having a res in their system
- Having a res makes it easier to fill and bleed out air out of your system
- Makes it easier to see your water level (esp. if you run colored tubing)
- Easier to fit drain and fill tubes

I have also read that in some instances having a big(ger) res makes the temps go down somewhat. This doesn't make sense to me though (once the water is warmed up at least, as it would be in a folding rig).

Personally I'd add a res if I have space for it simply because of the easy fill and drain. Having a res can clutter up a case too if you are space limited.

Actually it makes more sense to me if it just takes longer to warm up because of the greater volume of water... not that it runs cooler. Probably appears that way at first but in the long run in a system under load 24/7 it's the same I would think.

But yeah, you made a couple of great points. I have black tubes and having a res does make it easier to bleed and fill and check water levels.
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You can also use a T-line if you want to...

If you were asking about the function of the res, you don't want the pump to suck air, but seeing as you already have a WC setup I guess you know that, was just making sure wink.gif

I was more in the line of asking if there were other benefits to res than eliminating air.

It would seem that the idea I have in mind... a pump/res combo would work best.
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In my one and only WC setup I've done I did not have a res, just a capped T line to fill it up. Roommate had no idea it was running as it was silently sitting in the corner folding. biggrin.gif
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Actually it makes more sense to me if it just takes longer to warm up because of the greater volume of water... not that it runs cooler. Probably appears that way at first but in the long run in a system under load 24/7 it's the same I would think.

But yeah, you made a couple of great points. I have black tubes and having a res does make it easier to bleed and fill and check water levels.

I saw a folder on here state that he ran very high temps for his hardware (was CPU and GPU). He just added a bigger res in the loop and said that that helped him in lower his temps to more comfortable levels. But as you say, my gut tells me that it would take longer to warm up (reach equilibrium) but the resulting temps would be very hard to measure any drop (you'd have some more area where heat could dissipate, but compared to the rads it would be to small for any real benefit).

Ha, I also had all black tubing and only a T-line (also black) in my first incarnation of my TC rig. I found out it was very hard to tell water levels (well, duh) and made it a pain to simply fill it, I now run a clear tube on the the T-line. I found it similarly hard to get the air out when I went resless, knowing what I was doing probably helped.
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I'd always use a res , I just find that without one is too hard to see if you have a slow leak or if you added enough water. . most people that day that it helps their temps say that because they think having more water means it sits around and cools off before going back through the loop. which is ridiculous because the pump sucks out the entire res in less than a second. I have a res just for peace of mind. As long as I can see fluid in my res I know for certain that there is positive pressure to my pump.
    
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I'd always use a res , I just find that without one is too hard to see if you have a slow leak or if you added enough water. . most people that day that it helps their temps say that because they think having more water means it sits around and cools off before going back through the loop. which is ridiculous because the pump sucks out the entire res in less than a second. I have a res just for peace of mind. As long as I can see fluid in my res I know for certain that there is positive pressure to my pump.
    
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I'd always use a res , I just find that without one is too hard to see if you have a slow leak or if you added enough water. . most people that day that it helps their temps say that because they think having more water means it sits around and cools off before going back through the loop. which is ridiculous because the pump sucks out the entire res in less than a second. I have a res just for peace of mind. As long as I can see fluid in my res I know for certain that there is positive pressure to my pump.
    
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Triple post! Nice.
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When the website worked on opera mini, I used to get double, and tripple post.

And to whomever asked about the watercooling. I've now built a loop, 4 times, and would not skimp on a res. As far as aestetics are concerned, I use zipties for clamps, so not so much. But this time around I used white tubing, because that was all that was in stock at my local microcenter, so a res was a must. Its also what I use to fill mine up.

Basically mirror everything Simon has said x3 tongue.gif



Not certain if I posted this in the thread, or just in a p.m. between dp and myself.
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