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  • 68% (66)
    Get the PC running and wait for further notice
  • 31% (30)
    Send the board back to Newegg right away
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post #31 of 50
Parond my ignorance but what is "high usage".? I use my SATA II ports for bulk storage and nothing else (no raid etc.). Does the dying Sata port kill the HDDor just itself?
post #32 of 50
Just put all your hard drives on the SATAIII ports (either the PCH ones or the ones on any secondary controller) and you'll be fine. You should be OK putting your DVD drives on the PCH SataII ports if you have to, they're pretty low use. On most boards you have 4 SataIII ports and 4 SataII, just avoid the ports that have the issue (The PCH controlled SataII ports), and wait for the manufacturer to replace it in time.
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post #33 of 50
Not much of a problem i see people using apple dell sony laptop when the battery have like a 20% chance of failing and catch fire and they are still using them ......
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post #34 of 50
contact newegg and find out what kind of return policy they have on this product. they may waive the restock fee due to the intel recall. if they will take it back without charging fees, do it. dont listen to everyone saying " oh its only sataII, and only 3 years". thats garbage.

when i buy a motherboard i expect it and all of its features to work for a LONG time. most of the people saying just build it now, own sandy bridge cpu/motherboards. i guess they think that by telling someone else its not a big deal that it will somehow not be a big deal for them either.

all im saying is, if you can send it back without too much hastle, then you should do it. sandy bridge was released way to early anyway. this will give all the manufactuers time to fix there busted boards(asus) and bioses.
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post #35 of 50
Thread Starter 
thanks for the response everyone I am on my new rig right now and I decided on keeping it =D
oh and I have 2 HDD and 1 dvd burner
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post #36 of 50
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Originally Posted by AliceInChains View Post
contact newegg and find out what kind of return policy they have on this product. they may waive the restock fee due to the intel recall. if they will take it back without charging fees, do it. dont listen to everyone saying " oh its only sataII, and only 3 years". thats garbage.

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all im saying is, if you can send it back without too much hastle, then you should do it. sandy bridge was released way to early anyway. this will give all the manufactuers time to fix there busted boards(asus) and bioses.
Then you shouldn't buy almost any of the product in this world since most of them dont work as advertised? Even light bulb has a 1 yeard warranty but i dont see anyone returning them say it didnt lasted a year....
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post #37 of 50
pfft someone makes a rumor and scares the lot of you sandy *****z , kidding ? nothing is corrupted , your computer wont die in 3 years thats just rubbish .. I personlly wouldnt care what people are saying aslong as my my computer runs fine .. I dont know how they can estimate ( 3 years ) n everyone is worried lmaoo , THIS SHOULD NOT STOP YOU FROM BUYING A SANDY BRIDGE SETUP .. UNLESS U HAVE SAND IN UR PANTYS .
    
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post #38 of 50
A lot of people are returning their Sandy Bridge motherboards (and CPUs) because of this defect, many for good reasons, but many for bad reasons. In my opinion, it is better to keep your system until the fixed motherboards are available, and then RMA the motherboard then.

Good reasons return your SB motherboard:

1. You use many (4+) SATA drives that are sensitive to theoretical data corruption. In other words, you need the additional 4 SATA II ports that are faulty.
2. None of the currently available workarounds are practical or appealing to you.
3. You don’t want to use hardware that has a defect in it, even though it may not affect your operation of the hardware. In other words, you feel that you should not be paying for defective (but functional) parts on principle.
4. Your SB purchase was an impulse buy to begin with and you had reservations already before the chipset bug surfaced. In other words, in was a marginal decision to begin with.
5. You need/want the money. Basically, you’d be better off not having bought Sandy Bridge to begin with.

Most other reasons I can think of to return a SB motherboard are panic reactions that, in my opinion, have a weak logical basis.

Bad reasons:
1. It has a defect, and because it’s defective it must be returned right away even if it works perfectly fine with what you do. If you dislike buying defective hardware on principle, it’s one thing; to knock the SB “fiasco†based on pure practicality is another. If the defect doesn’t affect you, then returning SB just means you lose the use of the computer until you replace it.
2. You’re simply worried that the defect will corrupt your hard drives. It’s true that if you do nothing about it for years, it might. Takes steps now to mitigate the risk, and your risk of losing data to the SATA controller bug is almost certainly less than your risk of a normal hard drive failure. It’s unlikely the bug will occur to begin with (5-15% over 3 years of use?), it’s even more unlikely that even if it does occur, it will occur before the new fixed motherboards come out (<3 months), it’s still more unlikely that even if it occurs before it’s replaced that it will corrupt data. And, to top it off, there’s always the SATA 6.0 gbps port which isn’t affected at all.
3. You want to punish Intel. Personally, I’d classify this as a bad reason. I doubt you returning your motherboard will do much if anything to punish Intel at this point.

On the other hand, there are also good reasons to keep your Sandy Bridge computer (for now).

1. It’s basically the fastest (yes yes, 970/980x) affordable platform around currently, and now even more exclusive, since it’s harder to buy now. So what if the platform’s got a defect? If you don’t have anything in the SATA II ports, it won’t affect you; it’ll get fixed eventually anyways, and meanwhile, you have something nothing else can affordably touch.
2. The defect is not necessarily essential to the working of your computer, especially if you only use 2 SATA devices. Additional workarounds also exist, such as PCI or PCI-e SATA cards.
3. You don’t have to wait the 1-3 months (or more, if you don’t want to pay even more for an SB motherboard when they’re fixed) in the meantime. So you get 1-3 months more use out of your SB machine than anyone else.
4. If you don’t have a good reason to return your SB motherboard in the first place (see above list), then it creates more hassle for everyone as vendors try to deal with the huge backlog of people trying to return boards for good reasons, for bad reasons and the panickers.
5. You do not have a “good†backup computer. Well, this would be personal preference. I’d rather use a Sandy Bridge over anything older than a Core2 Duo/Athlon.
6. They’re going to fix it in the next couple months, and you can live with the theoretical risks for that long.

Bad reasons to keep your Sandy Bridge:
1. It’s only a 5-15% chance of it happening over 3 years. Well, maybe. Intel used a “synthetic†way of testing this, and 5-15% is too high to leave to simple chance. If you are going to keep it, then take some simple steps to mitigate the risk.
2. RMA’s and returns are too much of a hassle. If a fix is available and you are too lazy to apply it, then you’re responsible for whatever happens. Nothing might happen (see how many crappy PSUs don’t blow stuff up) but then again, you might get a PSU that fries your motherboard.

Conclusion:
So, I think it’s obvious that I feel that much of the RMA/return fever is silly. Personally, I think most people haven’t thought through most of the facts available and are making rash decisions. My theory is that people are hitting the panic button.

I’m getting a SB i5 2500 system shipped tomorrow, and I personally would love to buy 6-7 more for our office even knowing about the bug. But I know exactly what our needs are, and where the problem lies, and I know that the problems that could arise don’t outweigh the benefits of having the i5 2500 machines, especially I'm 100% sure it won't affect our use of the machines. If you return your SB system, more power to you, but please make it an informed and rational decision!

TLDR:

Do I need the onboard SATA II ports, and want/need them to be absolutely, 100% reliable? If yes, then return and buy something else.

Do I hate the idea of spending money on something that isn’t 100% working? If yes, then return for a refund.

Do I need the money? If yes, then return for a refund.

Do I feel the hassle of RMAing the board and installing it outweighs the hassle of setting up a new computer? If yes, then return and buy something else.

Otherwise, implement risk mitigation and keep your system until the new, fixed motherboards are available and RMA it then. You just lose a perfectly functional, high performance PC if you return it now.
post #39 of 50
I dont really see problem here, if smth fails in my system i'll just replace it, whether through RMA or through purchasing new component. Poop happens. At least if my pc wont boot one day i will know which part is bad. In fact, i want to do an experiment and use my rig the way it is to see how soon it fails (if it fails)
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post #40 of 50
I'm sure Intel will provide some kind of extended warranty program for people that bought boards with this defect. Just build your rig and don't worry about it till you see a significant slow down.
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