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Does not appear so. There are very few True 120hz monitors on the market today.
How do you know this won't do true 120hz?
    
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Generally those TV's double each frame so its just 60 frames doubled. 120hz for TV's is different than a 120hz monitor. Generally. You don't want one of those for fast paced gaming.
    
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Originally Posted by enorbet2 View Post
If you game, higher refresh rate is a considerable edge especially in shooters. Close in? The guy with the higher rate is much more likely to pwn. My trusty old Viewsonic CRT just recently died and dropping from 125Hz (same as maxfps cap on my favorite shooter, IoQuake3) to 60Hz has severely cramped my stats, not to mention my pride .
120hz vs 60hz won't make or break a gamer like that. I'd wonder what else is going if you are having that hard of a time "coping" with 60hz. For instance, is your 60hz monitor also a CRT? Perhaps input lag on a new display isn't as good as the old CRT?
    
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post #14 of 33
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So if I bought this Insignia HDTV 120hz, hooked it up via hdmi, would I be getting true 120hz in games?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Insignia...&skuId=9577326
there was an interesting thread about this posted quite a while back about refresh rates. although you can buy a TV that claims to have a refresh rate of 120 hz, it only accepts an input refresh rate of well below that. well below 60 hz too. it is refreshing the same frame multiple times, tricking your brain into thinking that the movements are more fluid.
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Is there any point in getting a 120Hz monitor if your GPU can only render your games at... say... 61-119 FPS? I've been looking into this recently, but haven't been able to find an answer to this question.
If you don't turn on vsync, sure, you'll see the extra frames, though potentially with some tearing. I don't know what Vsync does above 60Hz though (since it tries to lock at 30 or 60 for a 60Hz monitor from what I've seen).
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Is there any point in getting a 120Hz monitor if your GPU can only render your games at... say... 61-119 FPS? I've been looking into this recently, but haven't been able to find an answer to this question.
Sure ... because you won't be (effectively) limited to 60fps by your monitor.

Personally I wouldn't bother w/a 120MHz monitor unless I was going 3d, because I find 60FPS to be perfectly adequate for my gaming. Others obviously feel differently though, so ...
And yeah, "120MHz" LCD TV's aren't the same as true 120MHz (i.e. 3d-ready) monitors. They're not built for 120MHz input.
    
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Originally Posted by wick001 View Post
So if I bought this Insignia HDTV 120hz, hooked it up via hdmi, would I be getting true 120hz in games?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Insignia...&skuId=9577326
I GOT THAT! still only a 60htz input. i turn on vsync to eliminate tearing which lightens the load on my gpus. Good monitor but the dpi/viewable area takes getting used to when switching over from a lcd pc monitor.
Edited by XiDillon - 1/31/11 at 11:35am
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I GOT THAT! still only a 60htz input. i turn on vsync to eliminate tearing which lightens the load on my gpus. Good monitor but the dpi/viewable area takes getting used to when switching over from a lcd pc monitor.
That's the truth. I went from a 24" Dynex LCD 1080p monitor and my desktop looked blurry ALL the time. Eventually it bothered the hell out of me that I could barely read the font on OCN and ended up getting a 24" ASUS VW246H and the image quality difference was astounding.

I would never use a TV as a monitor again.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa... Don't blame TV's in general because you bought a Dynex... LOL. My Panasonic TV absolutely crushes my Samsung BBW monitor in every way. Color, resolution (duh, 1080p vs 1650x1050 or whatever they are. . ) the monitor was grey and no blacks at all. Just all around better. Granted, this isn't a top of the line monitor to compare, it was a good one in its time. Panasonic plasma's are also known for their low refresh rates too, so that isn't an issue. This Panasonic is slightly better than the Samsung plasma it replaced for input lag.
    
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As far as I know the 120hz is advertised for most screens post processing work only , applicable input signals still top out at 1080p 50hz or 60hz.

Even with the new 3D sets the signals still top out at 1080p 50hz to 60hz with two signals driving alternately to create the 3D effect making and using the 120hz processing / display capability of the panel.
 
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