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Originally Posted by Blacklac View Post
120hz vs 60hz won't make or break a gamer like that. I'd wonder what else is going if you are having that hard of a time "coping" with 60hz. For instance, is your 60hz monitor also a CRT? Perhaps input lag on a new display isn't as good as the old CRT?
No my 60Hz monitor is an LCD running at 1280 x 720 as opposed to the Viewsonic A91f+ CRT which was at 1024 x 768 @ 125Hz. It didn't "bust me back to Private" and the main adjustment is only during close-in hand-to-hand type combat. That is enough, however to make a difference, especially at first until one adjusts. Before I didn't have to adjust... it was just there.
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So buying any 120hz HDTV for PC use will not provide 120hz?
    
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post #23 of 33
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Originally Posted by wick001 View Post
So buying any 120hz HDTV for PC use will not provide 120hz?
No, the refresh method needs to be MEMC(found in Samsung), not backlight scanning(found in LG, Vizio, cheaper TVs)

http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/home_av...54368-2,00.htm
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Non 3D 120hz TVs only have a 60hz input. They create frames (interpolation) in between the frames given to smooth things out and get to 120hz. This is not good for video games because it causes input lag due to the TV holding the frames in order to create the ones in between.

Anyone using a TV as a computer display should really get into adjusting the settings. For instance a television feed usually has overscan, so the TV cuts it off and shows less on the screen than what its given. The 'Full Pixel' setting allows it to show the whole picture and is what computer users should be using. Adjusting settings will also help with messed up letter quality seen during browsing or on the desktop. Avsforum.com is good for finding settings useful for each TV model.
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My computer room TV (42" 1080p Westinghouse wanna-be LED) looks pretty decent for gaming (using 1:1 of course) but the desktop looks like utter crap compared to my monitor.

Although digital 1080p native signals like Blu-Ray looks awesome on this TV (esp. considering it was <$600), I could never stomach it for desktop use, myself.
    
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Originally Posted by brettjv View Post
My computer room TV (42" 1080p Westinghouse wanna-be LED) looks pretty decent for gaming (using 1:1 of course) but the desktop looks like utter crap compared to my monitor.

Although digital 1080p native signals like Blu-Ray looks awesome on this TV (esp. considering it was <$600), I could never stomach it for desktop use, myself.
I agree. I took my samsung P2770hd monitor back for a samsung 32 in hdtv, and the desktop really took some getting used to. Games look great, but tooling around and surfing is ehhhh
    
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post #27 of 33
There is an advantage though to being able to run a game at 70+ fps.

For example:
Games that take real steam to run might drop from 50fps to 20fps in a split second like Metro... if a better GPU can run the game at 80fps, drops will only go to 30fps or around there.

So even though your TV is limited to displaying 60 frames per second, the sum average of onscreen performance will be greater so its not like all that GPU power just spills over for no good reason.

If youre running a game a 125FPs like I do WoW, and it drops to say 88FPS, its still blazin and running smooth as silk! Why lock it in at 60 where it could possibly drop some to where I would actually visually see a difference?

Vsync is a great feature but I use it in select/very few titles.
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I used a Samsung "120Hz" 40" 1080p TV as my computer monitor. It looked awesome.
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There is an advantage though to being able to run a game at 70+ fps.
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If youre running a game a 125FPs like I do WoW, and it drops to say 88FPS, its still blazin and running smooth as silk! Why lock it in at 60 where it could possibly drop some to where I would actually visually see a difference?

Vsync is a great feature but I use it in select/very few titles.
Your monitor having a refresh rate of 60Hz does not affect your min FPS. Likewise, when it's running properly (i.e. you don't have the 'drop to 30fps glitch), having v-sync enabled does not affect your min fps (except 60 might be your min and max, of course) either.

If you're running WoW at 125fps, and it sometimes drops to 88, then if you had v-sync on, it would just run at 60fps the whole time. Which is all the FPS you're seeing anyways w/60Hz monitor.

Or maybe I'm totally misunderstanding what you're saying
Edited by brettjv - 2/1/11 at 8:28pm
    
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brettjv View Post
Your monitor having a refresh rate of 60Hz does not affect your min FPS.
Who said anything about that?

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If you're running WoW at 125fps, and it sometimes drops to 88, then if you had v-sync on, it would just run at 60fps the whole time.
Thats two different things.
I said I have Vsync off, so it doesn't lock at 60.

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Which is all the FPS you're seeing anyways w/60Hz monitor.
Agreed, 60fps is the max you can see due to the displays limitations.
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