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Ram is manually set. No i don't get bsod, everything Screen is frozen, can't move mouse or use keys, and sound in loop. I took pictures of my bios today, ill edit this post.

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post #12 of 32
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Ram is manually set. No i don't get bsod, everything Screen is frozen, can't move mouse or use keys, and sound in loop. I took pictures of my bios today, ill edit this post.

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i know this error very very well...i used to have it happen all the time...since i got my liquid cooling i haven't had it happen once...

the deal is that core 2 quads like lower temperatures when going past 3.0 ghz...they really like to stay bellow 70...if you even touch 75 under stress it'll just freeze in a sound loop. also, i would reccomend bumping that voltage two notches...

what are your load temps??

does it ever freeze in windows media player? just playing music?
    
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with C2Q 1.35V is actually pretty average. I have a VID of 1.25 and have to run 1.44Vcore in order to keep 3.709 stable on my q9450...I say you should bump you Vcore a notch and stress test with 50 passes of linx, full mem, and also small and large fft in prime...if you're just doing small fft in prime for 12 hrs it probably won't catch a bad OC...
Don't compare the Q9xxx to the Q6600. Q6600 is 65nm process and can take alot more voltage than 45nm chips. 1.44 on a Q9xxx is way too much for 3.7, should not go much over 1.4 at your chips max clocks. On a Q6600 1.44 is no big deal, and 1.5-ish for max.

You can check your temps but 3.2 at 1.35 should not be making much heat unless you have a cooler failure. You have alot of headroom left on VCore, I've been running 3.6@1.51 for 2 years on a daily-used machine, keeping temps low.

What are your BIOS settings?
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Don't compare the Q9xxx to the Q6600. Q6600 is 65nm process and can take alot more voltage than 45nm chips. 1.44 on a Q9xxx is too much, should not go much over 1.4. On a Q6600 1.44 is no big deal, and 1.5-ish for max.

You can check your temps but 3.2 at 1.35 should not be making much heat unless you have a cooler failure.
on 780i 1.44 in bios is about 1.39 to 1.38 in windows...besides, what i said for the q9450 also applies to the q6600


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on 780i 1.44 in bios is about 1.39 to 1.38 in windows...besides, what i said for the q9450 also applies to the q6600


side note: i like the car in your pic, wish i had the money to buy one...
Completely different chips with completely different voltages, different overclocking techniques on the mobo. None of my 45nm CPUs need anywhere near 1.4V in BIOS. You should stick with BIOS with maybe a .05-.1 fudge factor. 1.44? Not for me. Software voltages are iffy IMO and load-dependent.

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Completely different chips with completely different voltages, different overclocking techniques on the mobo. None of my 45nm CPUs need anywhere near 1.4V in BIOS. You should stick with BIOS with maybe a .05-.1 fudge factor. 1.44? Not for me. Software voltages are iffy IMO and load-dependent.

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you've got p45...the 780i has no vdroop control...in fact when under load my processor dips to 1.37...not to mention the fact that the NB on my board has a standard temp of about 60C...for everyone that I've known using it...and it's crazy i know, but i am perfectly stable, under 55C load and my advice to OP is what most people go by for his C2Q...

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My temps are:



This is not the problem. But should i raise the vcore a bit& like 1.37v? Because at 1.35v, cpu-z show 1.344v under load and 1.336v idle. I put 1.35v because people on OCB with that cpu and that board use it at 1.35v-1.37v but i don't know if they were talking about bios or cpu-z. If it's cpu-z, the vdroop cause the freeze and i need to raise it to ~1.37v to get 1.35v with vdroop. Tell me if i'm wrong
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OP: Bump VCore, 1.37 is nothing for Q6600. You'll need to move RAM to 1:1 (ex: 400FSB gives you DDR2 800) at manufacturer spec timings/voltage (set manually) and play with VCore, up to 1.5 if your cooling is good enough (top tier air or H5O). You will likely be in the 1.43+ range at 3.4+ GHz, then keep bumping FSB and testing, add VCore if needed. Not much else really, maybe bump NB a touch if VCore doesn't seem to be helping.

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I've got 45nm duos on a 680i and 750i, see in sig. I get close to 1.40 BIOS to get 4.5 out of the 750i/E8400. I wouldn't go over 1.4, have you played with VTT etc to try to get less VCore?

Anywheee, OP has Q6600 on P45. He won't be breaking much over 400FSB.
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I'm currently running multi 9x and FSB to 400MHz my ram is set 1:1 i think because CPU-z display me 400MHz and i set DDR2-801MHz in bios. As you can see in my pict linked at the end of this post. I would stay to 3.2GHz for now. I will raise vcore to 1.37v and test it.

My vNB is 1.30v. Everything is set for 3.6GHz but when i first installed my hyper 212+ and tested to 3.6GHz, i get 69 degree after 15 min of prime95 blend test. I changed multi from 9 to 8 and vcore from 1.48 to 1.35. I ran prime95 for 12 hours and get 65 degree at highest. But when i re-installed my hyper 212+, i get 50 degree after 8 hours of prime95 at 3.2GHz. I finally never changed anything after that.

Because i didn't changed the FSB ( 400MHz ), i didn't changed something in RAM. My NB is at 20 degree, in one of the picture you can see it.

I know my p5q pro turbo can take much more. Everytone told me it's a good 775 mobo and i never had problem before.

So, i only need to raise a bit the vcore? Is it your solution?

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OP: Bump VCore, 1.37 is nothing for Q6600. You'll need to move RAM to 1:1 (ex: 400FSB gives you DDR2 800) at manufacturer spec timings/voltage (set manually) and play with VCore, up to 1.5 if your cooling is good enough (top tier air or H5O). You will likely be in the 1.43+ range at 3.4+ GHz, then keep bumping FSB and testing, add VCore if needed. Not much else really, maybe bump NB a touch if VCore doesn't seem to be helping.

victor: 2011 STi sedan project of the shop who last tuned my car:
http://wrxatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29394

I've got 45nm duos on a 680i and 750i, see in sig. I get close to 1.40 BIOS to get 4.5 out of the 750i/E8400. I wouldn't go over 1.4, have you played with VTT etc to try to get less VCore?

Anywheee, OP has Q6600 on P45. He won't be breaking much over 400FSB.
OP: yes for sure bump the Vcore up a bit. you definitely have room to play with. you may find (like I did) that just one notch up or down can make a world of difference. just give it a shot and report back!

2thache: that car is sick, and I'm actually 1 hr south of atlanta, so i may go by that place and check it out sometime.

and I haven't played with VTT that much. If you've got some suggestions for me to drop the Vcore and maybe clock even higher PM me...I dont wanna take over OP's thread...
    
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