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Originally Posted by Hiep View Post
No, just no. How are you going to bring up Nvidia in a 5w thread?
Lol.

Nvidia Fersion?
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post #22 of 29
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Originally Posted by darksideleader View Post
What about the wattage for the graphics and NB

The 4xx Atom does have a on die GPU, but that uses 6.5w + NB wattage.

Intel does have the advantage of using year old 45nm tech and still being competitive.
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Atom may be "super low power" but they stuck their pitiful off the shelf chipsets on them which makes the "super low power" propaganda turn into a low-power + low-performance platform. The 945 chipset sucks 16W IIRC.

Very excited to go shopping next time i need a laptop.
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Originally Posted by WhiteCrane View Post
Why would I want an APU from AMD when I can get an Intel Atom with an integrated Nvidia GPU?
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Originally Posted by Hiep View Post
No, just no. How are you going to bring up Nvidia in a 5w thread?



I know that I'm going fusion for my school laptop, If i can get that in a tablet PC that'd be mint.

I emailed AMD a few days ago asking about where I can buy fusion systems.
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I may have a reason to build a new NAS box soon... The Atom one I have is getting old with its noisy fans...
 
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they had a lappy with this on sale at fry's for $360ish
    
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post #25 of 29
hmmm I remember when i read that AMD increased the Watts on their APUs so they could launch sooner, but it sure didn't take them long to start bringing it down again!

Personally I'd be more excited if I could actually buy a ITX board featuring an E-350 though
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post #26 of 29
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I may have a reason to build a new NAS box soon... The Atom one I have is getting old with its noisy fans...
The Atom was a 10 year old platform from the very moment it launched.
post #27 of 29
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Originally Posted by BizzareRide View Post
It should be better. Atom manufacturing began nearly four years ago...

"Cost-wise"

I'm sure it cost AMD more to produce Bobcat cores than it cost Intel to produce Atom cores based on the fact that there are 2500 Atom cores per 300mm^2 wafer, whereas there are only 900 Bobcat cores(+ 80-core GPU) per 300mm^2 wafer.

That's on the 45nm lithography for Atom AND Intel is supposed to be moving to a 450mm^2 wafer to further reduce cost. Though I'm not sure this applies to TSMC.
It doesn't matter that the first atom was introduced several years ago. Intel has continued to tweak the design. Intel has chosen not to release another design. Intel is trying to go smaller (think cell phone) while AMD is attempting to reach a netbook market. That a chip aimed at supplanting CULV laptops (in the low end) can also be scaled down to compete in the tablet space is something I find remarkable.

The Atom should cost quite a bit more to make (comparing the 5xx model as it is the only one to come close in processing power).
1. it is made on the expensive 45nm low power process while bobcat is made on a BULK 40nm process
2. Atom is larger at 87mm^2 than bobcat at 75mm^2
3. the 559 pin atom needs a more complex motherboard design (and extra layers metal on the chip) than bobcat with 413 pins.

As conjecture, in the near future, atom will shrink to 32nm, but bobcat will shrink to 28nm around the same time.
Edited by hajile - 1/31/11 at 10:10pm
post #28 of 29
I would be very interested in seeing a tablet performance comparison of this vs Tegra 2.
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Considering Tegra 2 is ARM based, Bobcat ought to own its ass.
   
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