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O come on! Why is everything about server's with bulldozer? Where's the bulldozer for us AMD freakz! We don't run server's.... We run performance machines!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Atomfix;12221608 
O come on! Why is everything about server's with bulldozer? Where's the bulldozer for us AMD freakz! We don't run server's.... We run performance machines!

A server is the best performance machine you can build, it's just not the most cost-effective performance machine you can build :O
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Originally Posted by JF-AMD;12221396 
So, you'd rather have less boost, even though there is more headroom? I think that site is OnlySlightlyOverclocked.net wink.gif

I don't understand this comment.

I can easily improve temperature to allow higher clocking. I can do nothing directly to control power draw (other that lowering temperatures which only has a minor impact on power draw).

If the boost is based on power draw, but I assume AMD did not disable thermal throttle/cutoffs. Being the case, there are now two factors limiting the boost. I rather have one.
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It would be nice though to be able to use Turbo Core to push the CPU to maximum power draw (TDP), but also to limit the boost in case the CPU heats too much. Come to think of it there may already be some throttling mechanisms implemented to prevent overheating.
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At full TDP the thermal solutions are designed to dissipate all of the heat.
This is true for servers where there is a standard cooling solutions per TDP. It's not necessarily true for consumer products, in this thread there must be at least 10 different coolers; cooler manufacturers don't tell how many watt can be effectively evacuated.

Maybe it's all for the best. If it we'd have a Temp-limiter we'd be like: enter BIOS, dial in max TDP, max multiplier, Max Vcore offset, Max Temp and we'd just leave TC2 handle the rest. Max OC would be found in under 5mn. Where's the fun in that?
Edited by dragosmp - 2/1/11 at 5:13am
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Originally Posted by mrjminer;12221629 
A server is the best performance machine you can build, it's just not the most cost-effective performance machine you can build :O

Yeah, I see your point, but not many people build server gaming machines
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Originally Posted by dragosmp;12221668 

This is true for servers where there is a standard cooling solutions per TDP. It's not necessarily true for consumer products, in this thread there must be at least 10 different coolers; cooler manufacturers don't tell how many watt can be effectively evacuated.

Those are after market coolers.
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At full TDP the thermal solutions are designed to dissipate all of the heat.

The "thermal solutions" surely means the stock cooler the cpu comes with. If we're getting 500Mhz turbo (read overclock) on 16 cores at stock, it implies that BD is going to overclock like hell on after market coolers with extra vcore, where you would exceed the TDP.

...we might get a Bulldozer @ 6Ghz on air club with the 4 core varient...
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Some of the benefits of AMD Turbo CORE include:

Up to 500MHz of additional clock speed available with all cores active. This means even with 16 cores active with server workloads, all cores can boost at the same time. For those customers that want to maximize their performance, they now have the tools to do it.

So they will boost all the cores up to 500MHz with all active... so it looks like they are allowing hardware controlled OC on server CPU's.

Cool!!!
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post #48 of 107
Quote:
Originally Posted by PoopaScoopa;12221158 
Nice they're finally adding Turbo.
Now all they need to do is add hyper-threading in another 5 years...

turbo has been in the thubans since release.
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Originally Posted by purpleannex;12221241 
Terrible attempt at trolling, read a few more posts in the Intel threads and learn from the experts wink.gif

Guess you didn't notice the "T" in 1090T. Four or six hyperthreaded cores vs eight BD cores? ...i'm looking forward to that!

doesn't the T stand for Thuban?

in any event i remember seeing most of the Thubans having a turboboost-type feature where you lose cores but gain speed.
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Originally Posted by Atomfix;12221608 
O come on! Why is everything about server's with bulldozer? Where's the bulldozer for us AMD freakz! We don't run server's.... We run performance machines!

server products tend to be released first and then desktop.

in any event, i remember JF-AMD saying he works on the server end which also explains why he tends to speak more of server performance.
Edited by -iceblade^ - 2/1/11 at 6:10am
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Why would they place the first letter of the "code" name of a cpu on the end of the cpus final product name? They haven't done it for any others have they? Since Thuban was the first AMD with Turbo core, the T is much more likely to stand for that, at least that's what i've believed for the last year, don't know if I read it or assumed it, could be entirely wrong! LOL

The clients coming first this time according to JF. Other than that, JF's AMD's server guy, so that's what you get - server info. But it would appear that the server and client cores are very similar and are building blocks of modules. The 16 core server cpu is pretty much two 8 cores side by side isn't it?
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Originally Posted by phibrizo;12215160 
This is great news for people who dont know how to overclock and for the average consumer. If bulldozer has high stock clocks out of the box, then with turbo boost they would get even better performance/dollar than before.

Don't forget servers. People really don't want to overclock servers (and they don't). Like the example in the quote, when all 16 cores are loaded a 500MHz boost will be incredible.
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